ABF announces contract negotiations

Discussion in 'ABF Freight System' started by SAC75, Nov 13, 2017.

  1. Dracula

    Dracula Well-Known Member

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    I've been Linehaul for almost 20 years, with a couple of years to go. I've got approximately half of seven figures in my Fidelity 401-k account. I don't know how that stacks up against your potential pension but I do know that every last dollar has my name on it.
     
  2. 6PakAbs

    6PakAbs Well-Known Member

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    Pay the Rate or Lock the Gate....I don't really care about the latter...NO MORE GIVEBACKS....AND..restore the old givebacks (contract language, red circle, etc and then a decent wage on top of that...
    It will be hard for the Logistics div to explain why they are giving all the business to other carriers...but then, the other carriers high level sales executives should be paying close attention if that happens....PTROLTG
     
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  3. canaryinthemine

    canaryinthemine Retirement....The Job I Was Born To Have!

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    Then you've done reasonably well,....probably better than most of your fellow co-workers. But,.....what happens at the next economic downturn? I started a 401(k) in 1995 to back up the defined-benefit plan I was in,....and I saw at least 4 times when I lost half the value of my "investments",.......including the downturn of 2001, where it was almost 2/3rds of what I supposedly had in my account.

    At that point,....they were actually dipping into the cash share that I had contributed. And,...I reacted by removing all my "shares" into a safer money market fund......The electronic equivalent of stuffing my money in a mattress......I could NOT escape the 401(k) agreement...(..unless I quit or got fired..)

    Until age 59-and-a-half,.........that "money" does NOT have your "name on it". You've entered into an investment agreement with Fidelity, exchanging your control over investments for tax deferrment. As you see above,...in the event of an earth-shaking catastrophe in Wall Street,...you can actually lose some...(or most, if not all)...of the cash that you've got coming out of your paycheck due to the investment agreement.

    I'm sure you've read all the paperwork,.....and you are aware of all the disclaimers making no guarantees. I don't think people in a physical-work setting,......where you're burning up your abilities to do your job simply by getting older,........should have to solely trust the vagaries of the stock market for their futures.

    $500,000 at a 3.5% annuity will give you $17,500 a year, divided into 12 checks, is $1458 a month.........before taxes . Yes, you pay taxes when you retire. Not as much, but that's what "tax-deferred" means.

    You've got a little ways to go, Brother, and I honestly wish you the best of luck in doubling your investments in the next 10 or so years.
     
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  4. canaryinthemine

    canaryinthemine Retirement....The Job I Was Born To Have!

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    ................(......another long exasperated sigh......)............

    Okay,...Rollin62......."Strike" talk isn't scare tactics, It's one of the few remaining tools left in negotiations,.....and the "behind-the-scenes" chatter is an effective way for both management and Union to gauge the rank-and-file's militancy.

    Negotiations effectively began two months ago, with the IBT Freight Director asking for contract proposals from all the Locals involved.

    These guys aren't "jokers". We know who the jokers are......

    Apparently,...you're the one whose overstuffed himself to the point of imminent brain damage,........especially since your organ of thought is closer to your large intestine instead of above your shoulders.....

    Pull your face up out of the mashed potatoes,....wipe the gravy from your eyebrows with the tablecloth you've got tucked into your undershirt neck.......Go swig some Pepto-Bismal and have a good, healthy bowel movement.......Maybe that'll clear your thoughts a little.........
     
  5. vongrimmenstein

    vongrimmenstein Well-Known Member

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    'Go swig some Pepto-Bismal and have a good, healthy bowel movement'. That's funny. von
     
  6. Trucker 206

    Trucker 206 Well-Known Member

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    Amen, von. They know we’re pissed. There may never be a better time.
     
  7. mud

    mud Wonderin' AD-FREE USER

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    It's starting to remind me of the Teamsters strike of 1994. I was all set, my third strike. On Roadway's picket line I started to lead the way. But when I looked over my shoulder, no one was following.
     
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  8. canaryinthemine

    canaryinthemine Retirement....The Job I Was Born To Have!

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    That's the problem...........Wallet over Principles.........

    Or,.....as a slimeball lowlife dispatcher once put it to me, while urging me to cross a picket line...." Morals never put food on your plate!......Go cross that line and deliver that freight!"

    Needless to say,....his load of freight was returned to his yard that night,......and he found another driver whose "moral" factor was quite a bit lower than mine......

    Been through two strikes,.........and one Union-imposed "blackball" period,....for having the temerity to file a NLRB charge against the Teamsters for allowing an employer to hire off the street while laying me off.....

    Yeah.....my family suffered,......But at the end of it all,......I am proud of never prostituting my abilities to help a billionaire screw over my fellow workers....
     
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  9. Trucker 206

    Trucker 206 Well-Known Member

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    Good one, canary. Our principles will be at the very heart of this next go-round. I was taught many moons ago to stand firm in matters of principle. There’s something immoral about abandoning your convictions.
     
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  10. LTLIndentured

    LTLIndentured Well-Known Member

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    Will you negotiate the use of truck mounted cameras in your next contract?
     
  11. silent trucker

    silent trucker Well-Known Member

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    hell no!
     
  12. silent trucker

    silent trucker Well-Known Member

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    You need to understand a simple principle: the same folks who demand others sacrifice, will not sacrifice. They will stand around being righteously indignant and calling others slaves and scabs, all the while being both. These folks are called Teamsters and Democrats. Know them as they are: "Hypocrites".
     
  13. SAC75

    SAC75 Well-Known Member

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    Another Troll! Go play on your FedEx thread and brag about how tough you are keyboard cowboy. Then you can pat yourself on the back for being a company man and taking what they give you. Thanks scab! Go back to being a slave! Lmao!!
     
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  14. DCM_Doc

    DCM_Doc Well-Known Member

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    I have been through several freight strikes & helped the local on other strikes that were won because the strikers stayed on the picket lines with financial help from others in the local. We helped the strikers to pay their bills. The employer's lawyer said the workers would be wanting to come back to work after a week or two or not being able to pay bills. One was a concrete workers/drivers strike that many told the local president could not be won.
     
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  15. DCM_Doc

    DCM_Doc Well-Known Member

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    A strike is not fun or a paid vacation. Be prepared to sacrifice for a while. Be sure you know the consequences before you vote yes or no. Some of the loudest & most militant for a strike were the first ones wanting to get back to work to pay bills. Some of those had to file bankruptcy when they were off work for two weeks.
     
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  16. Trucker 206

    Trucker 206 Well-Known Member

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    That’s sad! Two weeks out of work lead to bankruptcy for some of those folks? Wow! That’s some pretty poor financial planning! I’ve been in for 25 years and have never been on strike. That doesn’t stop the wife and I from piling money into the savings accounts about 18 months before contract time though. Not to mention shutting down all unnecessary spending too.
     
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  17. 6PakAbs

    6PakAbs Well-Known Member

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    I think we all mean...NOgotiations?
     
  18. canaryinthemine

    canaryinthemine Retirement....The Job I Was Born To Have!

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    I'm a Teamster (retired),.....and a Democrat. I would never call someone a "hypocrite",......or a racial slur,...or any ignorant thing ,....unless I was standing right in front of that person. I don't "argue"...CB radio style.

    PM me if you have something personal you need to get off your chest about Teamsters and Democrats. I can give you my address........
     
  19. ABFer

    ABFer Well-Known Member

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    Nobody wants to go on strike. It is an action that, in the short run, harms all parties. However, when it comes down to it, it is THE tool in the toolbox, pretty much the one and only tool in there. If not for the threat of a work stoppage the employer wouldn't even be serious about negotiations.
     
  20. SAC75

    SAC75 Well-Known Member

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    He was sore about the FedEx union debate thread. Just wanted to start crap is what I think.
     
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