Now that's a good , honest answer. Obviously I disagree with you as far as ALEC is concerned. I think I've mentioned I'm a Political Action Committee Treasurer for our Local? I deal with quite a few of the local politicians sniffing for money. I've had a few discussions with politicians about ALEC. Yes they do write legislation, and yes they do fund politicians who accept the ALEC agenda. I've seen it in my state with the voter registration issue, the privatization of the state LCB issue, and I will see it with our own state voting on RTW very shortly. Some of our local Rep. State Legislators tell me they use ALEC as a "guide". ALEC isn't a conspiracy...it's a fact....no matter how badly they want to convince people they don't exist. Listening to the enablers on talk radio again? Unions don't endorse higher taxes and needless regulation. Unions do endorse businesses paying their fair share instead of being tax-exempt....and they do endorse businesses obeying the law. EPA laws that businesses appear to hate,...are reactive. In other words, the laws come into being AFTER a company has done some sort of damage to the environment.....not before. I believe the EPA was created after Hooker /Occidental Chemical created Love Canal in Buffalo N.Y......and not before. Businesses love not having to abide by costly EPA rules,....therefore they have factories in Bhopal, India, and all over China. By the way,...the smog in China is now visible from space. Mr. Hoffa....whom I don't care for, for a number of different reasons than you have,....has never proclaimed himself to be a "socialist". Many talk show hosts have put that label on him....are you taking their words for the truth again?.....And....what's wrong with Universal Health Care.....first proposed by those good Republicans Dwight Eisenhower and Richard Nixon? (Read your history)....would businesses paying health care tied to your employment, thereby ensuring a quiet and docile workforce (Yowsah, Boss! I'll do anything you say just to remain employed because I can't afford to lose my healthcare!)....have anything to do with businesses not wanting to get out of the healthcare business and letting the Government run the whole show, because then they lose iron control of the workforce? Universal Health Care seems to work in every other civilized nation in the world.....your health care isn't tied to your employment, therefore, you aren't owned by the companies. Ah,...that's right,...those are "socialist" countries,...like France and England and Germany and Canada, where they have no freedom. Sure seems like their Unions over there have quite a bit more freedom than we do, though. We're all sure here, though,...that nobody's lying to us about quality and price in the "socialist" countries,...right? ....if you bother to do some checking, the largest political party in the world is the Socialist party..........which means that millions of those infidel foreigners are duped stupid people....and since the word "socialist" has been demonized....by talk radio and Republican politicians, into something as low as a child molester...of course no one will take a second look at the history or the goals of so-called "socialists". Between WW1 and WW11, the American Socialist party was the third largest party in this country......far, far larger than the TEA party is today. So....nowadays socialism equals communism.......apparently.....and has nothing to do with average workers' rights or justice.....demonization does it's job well,....doesn't it? It's all a Marxist plot.....or at least, the people who will benefit most by having created a ready-made boogey man for you to blame all the ills on and deflect the blame from the true causers....why, they're more than happy to have you think it's a Marxist plot.......even though Marxism...the "Karl" kind, not the "Groucho" kind died out 80 years ago......but it's good to have a slogan for all those nameless, faceless injustices.....that way you don't have to actuallly think about it.......but you know what?...you and I both digress on the subject of this thread. Who's to blame for bringing politics into it? I'll take half, if you'll take the other half. Sorry, rest of posters. I'm off my soapbox, now, and I expect Stoney will be, too.