After Living in Norway, America Feels Backward. Here’s Why.

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  1. pilot87

    pilot87 Well-Known Member

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    How about paying the debt that the wars have caused?.....even better, how about we stop invading other Countries so we can make them Oligarchies...errrrr.. I mean "democracies" like us... (Not that we are a democracy)

    And I didn't say "expand"... I said that the money already "expended" could be better used. I'm just saying to reallocate funds for wars to be used to benefit society as opposed to making more wars......and more military spending.......
     
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  2. pilot87

    pilot87 Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps if we could move beyond "Petty Politics" and do what is right.... I don't see that happening on any level anytime soon though....

    The "questionable conflagrations", say for example the Iraq war, would absolutely be repeated....just look at the willingness to go to war with Iran.....If McCain or Romney were President that is likely what would have taken place...all they need to do is scare people....like they are doing with ISIS currently...never thinking that perhaps if the invasion of Iraq had not occurred in the first place we wouldn't be faced with this threat from ISIS now......
     
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  3. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook

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    Pilot, you're a one trick pony, same as Mags. Blame 'wars', expand redistribution. Don't know how you missed your favorite (corporation) word? You're slipping.
     
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  4. aflifer

    aflifer Well-Known Member

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    You missed my point by a pretty wide margin.....your zeal and impatience at an opportunity to bash some conservatives impaired your reading ability.

    Maybe if Iraq was never invaded, ol' Sadam could now rule multiple countries and have legitimate power to really threaten the US and our allies. Scaring folks is fine, but I am assuming you think you know where the line is? I don't......but there has got to be one, as scaring people will only go so far before action is inevitable, been that way since the dawn of man......I don't expect it changes soon.

    Are you saying that we should not have been involved in either of the world wars? Scaring those folks didn't work very well......it actually invited the Japanese to attack us....

    Not saying I support everything behind the Iraq war, but I damn sure don't believe that we can afford to be overly complacent in the world stage...
     
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  5. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook

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    People love to play the What If game. In truth, we can't change history. Saddam might have had a heart attack and died if we hadn't invaded, or he might've attacked the USA with nerve gas. Or, he might've stepped down from power. We'll never know.
     
  6. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash Piss on our Flag, get a boycott against you.

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    Solyndra and the other "green energy" money wasting programs don't even employ people, all they do is line the pockets of the corrupt elite, then disappear.
    At least that military that you despise protects your rights to spew your Liberal viewpoints.
     
  7. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash Piss on our Flag, get a boycott against you.

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    [QUOTE="pilot87, post: 1022221, member: 5619]
    Now if your referring to undocumented immigrants crossing our borders,and you are,[/quote] They aren't undocumented.......they are illegal. When you come without proper paperwork, you are illegal. Period.

    You also believe Obama's unemployment numbers. Obama hasn't reported an authentic statistic since he took over. He's just changed the way that you calculate the number, and he's pretty good at it. But the numbers are fraudulent.

    Set your bleeding heart aside, and tell us how the refugees are helping our country.
     
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  8. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    Canada said they would accept 25,000 Syrian refugees by the end of 2015, they only had 2 months to do it and logistically it wasn't possible.
    However as of now they are all home in Canada working on their new lives. And they are ready to welcome more :1036316054::clapping:



    another example of things are just too difficult for us to try
     
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  9. Bubba74

    Bubba74 Well-Known Member

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    Canada can have all of them for all I care
    Why do we important more poor people when we have so many poor people here.
    There is only so pie to go around
     
  10. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    Many in Canada felt as you do.
     
  11. pilot87

    pilot87 Well-Known Member

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    There is a lot of wasteful spending everywhere.....even in your much loved and adored Corporate world....for example, lining the pockets of corrupt elite Politicians, so as to have laws passed to their benefit..... In many cases after taking advantage of such things as tax breaks from local areas, they simply up and leave.....wasting tax dollars and putting people out of employment...... You can't simply point the finger of blame on one Company while ignoring or excusing the harmful and wasteful actions of those that you happen to like......such as the over spending, i.e., wasteful spending on an already over bloated Military/Industrial complex....


    Show me any post where I stated that I "despise the military"?.... I recognize the importance of having a military..... What I do say that I am against is the over spending on the already over bloated military budget of the Military/Industrial complex.... which means, our country's military establishment and those private industries producing arms or other military materials.... As of 2009, military spending in the United States accounted for nearly half....about 46.5 percent, of the total amount spent in the entire World for military expenditures.. far and away more than what is necessary to defend our Country.... If you're so against wasteful spending, that should be on your list of thing to be cut.....



    As far as my right to "spew liberal viewpoints"..... its the same right that you have to spew your "conservative" viewpoints...... Your love of wasteful military spending doesn't provide you any special rights......
     
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  12. Bubba74

    Bubba74 Well-Known Member

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    Well that is socialism, the pie is always limited
    Capitalism makes more and more pie
     
  13. pilot87

    pilot87 Well-Known Member

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    Really? For who?..... A mere 400 of the richest Americans now have more wealth than the bottom 61 percent of the population....and Worldwide just 62 people now have more wealth than half the worlds population.....

    I guess it does make more "pie" for the those at the top...but people like the majority of the Nations population...like you and I, the slice of our "pie" isn't becoming "more and more"......for increasing numbers, their "pie" is getting less and less.......ask some of the retirees that face losing half or more of their hard earned pensions.....
     
  14. pilot87

    pilot87 Well-Known Member

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    Yes...only so much "pie" to go around.....Guess that's why just 400 Americans have more "pie" than 61 percent of the rest of the population.......and of course, I'm sure that you'll find an excuse for that to justify why that is a fine thing....
     
  15. pilot87

    pilot87 Well-Known Member

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    "They aren't undocumented"??.... When they come without proper paperwork they are most assuredly "undocumented"...... which is, of course, illegal.......but there isn't any such thing as an Illegal human being.... Humans can do illegal things....such as enter our Country undocumented....or break any other number of laws........but it is NOT Illegal to be a human being anywhere on this Planet....

    So when a person comes here illegally without proper papers they are "Undocumented Immigrants" Period!

    I wasn't talking about his unemployment numbers.. We were talking about the numbers of undocumented immigrants coming here being at an all time low....
    Of course the Government can manipulate the numbers to make what ever administration look as good as possible.......but in the absence of any other reliable sources they provide a guide or "ballpark" figure..... It's same with any Administration, To think otherwise is foolish.....of course......if it's a Republican President....I'm sure you'd find those numbers to be "accurate" to a tee!

    Set your cold heart aside and try and consider that it's the Human thing to do to help them.....Who knows how they will benefit this Country as time goes forward......it's an intangible thing at present..
     
  16. DCM_Doc

    DCM_Doc Well-Known Member

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    Anybody that wants more illegal immigrants here should open their home to about a dozen or so.
     
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  17. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook

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    So? So what? No excuse needed. I wish I knew how to obtain more, but bully for them.
     
  18. SuperCourse

    SuperCourse WHO IS JOHN GALT?

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    'Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what your country can do for you"

    My how things have changed.
     
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  19. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook

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    I think it was Teddy K that changed his Brother's vision around...
     
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  20. SuperCourse

    SuperCourse WHO IS JOHN GALT?

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    Today JFK would be a Republican with a big head of hair and a good looking wife.
     

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