Bernie Sanders draws 28,000 people in Portland

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  1. SuperCourse

    SuperCourse Well-Known Member

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    What you call "the Bush Crash", I would call "the Fannie Mae" crash. Without Fanny Mae it never would have happened. Without Bush, it still would have happened.
     
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  2. Bubba74

    Bubba74 Well-Known Member

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    Yes he did

    http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2015/05/26/3662773/sanders-90-percent-tax/



    if we did not have a job, that's ok, Barry would just stop counting us and tell everyone how great the economy is

    Could you imagine if Barry would have taken a smart approach, the economy might actually be doing good
     
  3. Woody

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    I always thought that was Billy's crEation
     
  4. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    I seen that interview he didn't say that he would impose 90% tax he said he didn't think it was too high, and that it was 90% during President Eisenhower's time and the country did great under it.
    But that's way different from him saying he would do 90% because he didn't.
    The devil is in the details they say.
    Like Trump rounding up 11 million people, he has no idea how to do it except we're going to hire more ICE officers.
     
  5. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    Suppose there was no Fannie mae would Wall Street not sell shitty mortgage investments packages and rate them AAA?
     
  6. Ice Rider

    Ice Rider Well-Known Member

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  7. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    You read my mind
     
  8. Ice Rider

    Ice Rider Well-Known Member

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    You dont have to "round up anyone.
    Cut ALL benefits including education to illegals, No welfare, No medical No Drivers licenses, No assistance at all.
    Make it a MANDATORY 5 year prison sentence for ANYONE that knowingly hires an illegal alien. The jobs will go away, they get no freebies....they will self deport their asses back to the country they came from.....PROBLEM SOLVED! Then Re-institute the Braceros program and you will have the farm labor that the left wants to say we will not have AND they will go home during the off season knowing they will be allowed to come back next season and work again.
     
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  9. Ice Rider

    Ice Rider Well-Known Member

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    There was nothing there....a blank slate.
     
  10. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    People who know, say the economy would go into the dumps if suddenly they were all gone.
    Business people won't go for it and many of them are Republicans and give to republican campaigns.
    They won't shoot themselves in the foot.
     
  11. SuperCourse

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    If there was no Fannie Mae there would be no shitty mortgages, people would still need 20% down and proof of income instead of Fannie backed NINJA (no income no job no assets) loans.
     
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  12. ESP

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    what do you mean, come out of the closet, is she also in rainbow land?
     
  13. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    The Banks were encouraged to sell their mortgages which allowed them to make a quick profit, people on Wall Street made money selling these packages as excellent risks when they weren't.
    Banks were able to have two different sides to them for deposits and for risk taking when Glass Steagall was relaxed. Which makes the Govenment liable for lost deposits when the investment goes bust.
    I see loans again being offered without the 20% down.
    And a bubble exists with car loans now like the housing loans before
     
  14. Ice Rider

    Ice Rider Well-Known Member

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    That's the problem...We have been listening to those "who know" for far to long, kick their asses out I will live with the decision as I watch the unemployment rate for Americans decline and wages in the service sector go up...after all with no illegals wages would have to come up in those industries using liberal logic that employers pay them below minimum wage and under the table right?
     
  15. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    But what about costs rising on the poor business man?
    They won't be able to pay the high wages Americans demand and will shut down.
    Rich people will lose their ass
    we can't have that can we?
     
  16. Bubba74

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    Lets not look at all at the historical context
    #1- the world was still in ruins from WWII, except for America, our economy was booming because we produced everything for everybody

    #2- Everything was deductible, all interests and business expenses. No one paid 90%. The AMT was designed so that the richest 400 families in America paid some taxes (of course never indexes so now about 10,000,000 Americans, pay it)

    As for Wall Street bundling crappy mortgages if Freddie and Fanny were not around, that would not have happen, banks don't lend money to people that cannot afford to pay it back unless ordered to by someone, in this case govt
    Put this under an accomplishment of Billy C
     
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  17. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash They will make you look foolish.

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    No. Not that I'm aware of anyway. She is hiding in the closet so that she doesn't have to answer any questions.

    But I'm going to go ahead and add that to her list of scandals anyway.
    1) Benghazi
    2) The Clinton Crime Family Foundation taking money as kickbacks for favoritism from Hillary.
    3) E-mail server scandal.
    4) Her and Obama have been laying pipe. (and not for the Keystone XL.)
    lol
     
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  18. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    Of course there were deductions taken off the 90% just like the deductions taken off today's taxpayers.
    Remember Romney paid less than 15% it was in the news you probably heard about it
    Fanny & Freddie were owned by stock holders not the government
     
  19. SuperCourse

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    Fannie Mae is pimping 3% down.
     
  20. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    Buy a half dozen then, turn around sell them next year for a fat profit
     

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