Breaking: Steve Scalise, House Majority Whip, shot at GOP charity baseball practice in Virginia

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  1. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash Piss on our Flag, get a boycott against you.

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    The Democrat party has become such a joke that the average citizen is embarrassed for them. They embarrass themselves, then move on to the next topic to embarrass themselves on.
    They are no longer our grandparents Democrat party.
     
  2. Rastus

    Rastus ......Deplorable.....

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    They're Castro's party.
     
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  3. a9faninnc

    a9faninnc Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Party of radicals and terrorists.They created it and now its their destruction..
     
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  4. pilot87

    pilot87 Well-Known Member

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    What about Corporations that get back money after paying zero Federal taxes..... How is that fair?.... G.E comes to mind....Boeing and Verizion too.... I would venture to say those " refunds " probably total a whole lot more than those on the opposite end of the financial spectrum...... I'm guessing you're ok with it if the wealthiest are the beneficiaries.....

    Ok.....then why all the crying about the Corporate tax rate then...? ... I've got news for you ..... Every cost is included in the final product price.....so I guess we may as well work for them for free...free gas.....free everything ...so they can produce things for us at a nominal cost..... Yes I know...sounds silly....but that is your justification to excuse Corporations from paying their share in taxes on profit's rather than hiding them in off shore shelters.... They are evading more in taxes than the working poor might get back....

    Why is it " necessary "?... They should just pay the tax due....just like you and I have to do..... Maybe this Nation would be a lot better off if that money was reinvested right back into our own economy rather than being hoarded out of circulation.... Economies are only strong and viable when money is being circulated within them....take out large sums of money and it doesn't take a financial wizard to know what happens....

    As far as the tax code, I agree, it's a total joke... But the ones that benefit from it are not going to change it....why would they?....
    If they wanted it changed to be more " fair " it would have been changed long ago....

    Of course those issues don't affect you...nor do they impact my life either..... As I recall there were a lot of "conservatives" that were "outraged" over those very issues....plenty of commentary on here about it....and more than a few believed that their families were impacted by them.....perhaps even you made posts about the evils of those issues you now say don't matter to you.....
    As far as being "inundated" with those subjects....you need to realize that rightwing media was all aflame with nonstop coverage....just the same as Leftwing media was.... It's all just a distraction, another "wedge issue" to deepen the rift.... So direct some of your annoyance to your own trusted sources as well....

    Glad to note that you realize those issues don't impact your life..... But do keep in mind those issues DO impact the lives of others... Do keep in mind that there are others besides ourselves with totally different circumstances than ours..... Ohhh...yeah...I forgot, you needn't be bothered by anyone else's problems....... Just leave you alone and let them figure things out on their own.... Just what we need....an everyone for them self society....

    Actually it is being selfish.... We all have families to look after, you're not the only one...we all have our lives....of course.... But to whine bitterly about the use of your tax dollars going to help those less fortunate then ourselves, while advocating for billions in more wealth for the already wealthy or for more wars, is being selfish.. I'd much rather have my tax dollars go to benefit society rather than kill more people in endless war.....

    I haven't heard anyone say Trumps not the President..... Everyone agrees he is....just not everyone's as thrilled as you are about it.... Just like you we so unhappy with Obama...... Of course so that made all the comments about how he wasn't a "legitimate" President because he was Kenyan.... "UnAmerican" ...he is Muslim.......blah blah blah.... That was all ok though.....Remember all that and more?..
    It's always different when its " your guy" though....

    That doesn't alter the meaning of my comments in my post.... My point stands as valid.... I notice though, as long as the "discredited media" says something that fits your narrative.... Then it's not so "biased" then.... I guess it's all about perspective isn't it?

    Of course..... Nothing more than the usual token talk after such shootings..... Nothing ever happens...... No one has banned guns....you still have yours....everyone has theirs....you can buy all bullets you want....
    You can go and buy more guns too.....

    Yes being a vegan is still a choice just like eating meat still is..... NO one is holding you back from eating meat..... Yes I've seen the information on the meat industry.... There is NOTHING wrong with showing the public just how disgusting they treat animals.... I grew up on a family Farm, we raised our our own meat.... Inhumane treatment of animals isn't necessary..... In the end it's still your choice to eat meat.....no one has said you can't... NO one..... Eat all the meat you want.... I also enjoy the occasional burger.... By the way, who are "those on the left who don't want it to be a choice"?....

    I think its pretty even about both parties wanting things their way...... I'm sure you'll remain true to your " Conservatives can do no wrong " mantra and disagree with me...

    But anyway, go out enjoy your meat and your guns....... No one will will stop you...least of all me...
     
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  5. pilot87

    pilot87 Well-Known Member

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    Who's "punishing" them?.... Expecting them to pay taxes on their full incomes is "punishing" them?... They will still be fabulously wealthy regardless.....
    You and I pay our taxes and yet I don't feel I'm being "punished".... On the contrary, I feel as though I'm contributing to the Country which has allowed me the measure of success that I have..... This b.s of people who need help being "entitled to the hard work of others" is just that, B.S.. I don't feel that way.... I've worked hard and smart, over the years... I do very well for myself and Family.... I've traveled extensively in certain regions in the World that peaks my interests.... I live outside the bubble of the USA for extended periods.....I've learned foreign languages (Spanish) (studying French and bettering my German) I've been privileged for those experiences.....and never once did I ever feel I was being punished for my success..... To feel that helping those less fortunate, through our tax dollars is being "punished" is just as plain sad as it is selfish...

    So then by that "logic" G.E. has "no skin in the game".... My previous comment stands as valid..... Your "argument" is insufficient to change my opinion.... Try more logical reasonings.....

    You're still blaming the ones with the least for causing the most problems..... The ones with the most money and power are the ones that can do the most damage, or the most good....Concentrated wealth at the top is NOT a good thing for the future economic well being of the Nation or any Nation....

    Sure....let "market decide".....what about when the economy contracts....and the local Sonic now offers $3 per hour, because that's what " the market" decided?... Or how about the "market" decides that your wage be cut by 2/3?.... Are you going to be so willing to just accept that..?.... Or perhaps you feel the " market" shouldn't apply to you....or perhaps you feel you're so irreplaceable your insulated from the "market"?..... Allowing Wall Street to determine wages isn't going to lead to higher pay overall.... Compare wages on average, to costs of living over the last 30 years.... Average wages are not keeping up...
     
  6. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash Piss on our Flag, get a boycott against you.

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    I'm to the point of not knowing who is more destructive to our nation, ISIS or the Democrat party. It's a close race.
     
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  7. Toby

    Toby Well-Known Member

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    Johnny Depp: ‘When Was the Last Time an Actor Assassinated a President'


    "He then added, “I’m not insinuating anything – by the way, this will be in the press and it will be horrible – but when was the last time an actor assassinated a president?”

    Depp then added, “I want to clarify, I am not an actor. I lie for a living. However, it has been a while, and maybe it is time.”

    It is unclear if the quip, which was reportedly met with wide applause, was a reference to actor John Wilkes Booth’s 1865 assassination of President Abraham Lincoln. It is clear, however, that the comment was not the first insinuation of violence against the president in his young tenure in the Oval Office."

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollyw...-depp-last-time-actor-assassinated-president/
     
  8. a9faninnc

    a9faninnc Super Moderator Staff Member

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    These idiots just dont get it.They are leading to the demise of the Dimm Party..People are fed up with their :shit:.
     
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  9. Bubba74

    Bubba74 Well-Known Member

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    So you are saying that they got all their tax liability back and additional monies
    I find that hard to believe
    if they paid taxes during the year and the end of year filing showed zero tax liability then a refund of the money is possible, but additional money like we pay with the EITC would need so research

    if the US corporate tax rate on manufacturing is 35%
    and the Chinese tax rate on manufacturing is 10%
    US corporations are starting at a 25% disadvantage because the cost of taxes is an expense

    who pays "what is due?"
    Barry who is rich only paid 19% last year (he should have paid 39.5%)
    that is why our tax code is a joke
    Even when Bernie yells about the :"good old days" with the 92% tax rate, no one paid that
    Remember during the campaign when the left was going crazy over Trumps tax returns and the deduction he took for loses, completely legal written into the tax code by people like Bernie and Hilly
    Fair Tax- no where to hide

    why?
    because we were beaten over the head with it, day in day out night in night out
    Then when California voted and the people were against it, the left ran to the courts and started beating the nation over the head with it again and again

    I realize that but as I said, I take care of my house first, before trying to save the world

    see I don't have a problem with wealthy people
    good for them
    Nor do I think its right that what they have earned should be taken from them because someone else is "less fortunate"
    they have the right to give if they want to give
    Plus, numerous studies have shown that conservatives tend to be far more chariable
    Remember the "Evil" Koch brothers how many hospitals, music centers, etc......... are named after them for their charitable giving ?
    Also, it not the use of my tax dollars to help the less fortunate, its the mis-use of my tax dollars
    PS- I have never advocated for war, once again leave me alone :1036316054:
     
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  10. Bubba74

    Bubba74 Well-Known Member

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    I have
    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...earful-not-my-president-s-day-rallies-n723371

    don't even try to compare this with the Tea Party movement which was based on legitimate concerns, this was less than 1 month in refusing to accept the results of the election

    I have plenty of friends who are on the left even they admit the MSM is biased

    your missing the point
    the left idea is not just leave well enough alone, they want to force everyone to comply
    For them to not eat meat is not good enough, they want the entire world to not eat meat
    For them to not own a gun is not good enough they want the entire world to not own guns
    For them to drive an electric car is not good enough, they want the entire world in electric cars

    Not if it done right and by the Constitution
    sadly you got maybe a handful of true conservatives in DCgrad
     
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    Bubba74 Well-Known Member

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    but there are plenty that do
    including rich guy Bernie Sanders
    "share it fairly but don't take a slice of my pie"

    the taxes that GE would pay are further supplemented by their property taxes, payroll taxes and all the tertiary benefits of having that company located in that area (ie grocery stores, resturants, movie theaters, etc......) just because there was no income tax per se doesn't mean that the benefits were not great for that community
    Furthermore, crony capitalism is not capitalism

    we could go the way of Venezuela
    let two or three families control it all destroy the middle class and let the rest live in the socialist paradise of object poverty
    I think what you are worried about is the generational wealth causing an elitist ruling class, you know like the Kennedys or Rockafellers considering that 80% of Americas rich are , they made it themselves did not get it from daddy
     
  12. Rastus

    Rastus ......Deplorable.....

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    Right now it's democrats. Look at the division they're causing, it way more than Isis.
     
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    Rastus ......Deplorable.....

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    How to create a social state – The Cloward-Piven Strategy:
    There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before you are able to create a social state.
    1. Healthcare– Control healthcare and you control the people.
    2. Poverty – Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
    3. Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
    4. Gun Control – Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state
    5. Welfare – Take control of every aspect of their lives. (Food, Housing, and Income)
    6. Education – Take control of what people read and listen to us“ take control of what children learn in school.
    7. Religion – Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools.
    8. Class Warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.
    (See #8 )
     
  14. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash Piss on our Flag, get a boycott against you.

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    The crazies are the mouthpieces for the Democrat party, that's why they have lost well over 1000 seats since the radical Muslim took office. They need new leadership and people with some common sense leading the way, but it looks like the Pelosi types are cemented in forever, and they will continue to slip away from relevance, but that's fine with me. The American people reject this type of vile hatred and immature behavior.
     
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    Rastus ......Deplorable.....

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    The left will have to be put down one way another someday. I'm beginning to believe voting won't do it.
     
  16. SuperCourse

    SuperCourse Someday You'll Hate Amazon Too.

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    Looks like they've checked all the boxes accept one. Gun control is only a partial at this point.
     
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    Rastus ......Deplorable.....

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    Yep. And that pesky number 5 is all that's stopping them too.
     
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    Rastus ......Deplorable.....

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    Good news, Rep. Steve Scalise was moved out of intensive care today.
     
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