Camera coaching ?

Discussion in 'YRC Freight' started by Cab Lizzard, Mar 31, 2016.

  1. Triplex

    Triplex Experienced stalker

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    Exactly what "facts" are you referring to LV? I was offering my opinion on those who would like to see YRCF close the doors (and put thousands of their "brothers" out of work) rather than man up and get a better job if they hate YRCF so much. That's opinion not fact in any case. As far as referring to you, I don't know if you're one of those who would like to see the doors closed. Are you?
     
  2. Cab Lizzard

    Cab Lizzard Well-Known Member

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    It is what it is ! Their is plenty of history here !

    As you are training why not pass on this information
    You will get a cut on your car insurance for Smith System Training.

    I am not against the camera's !
    The whole program here has been a farce since day one.
    I sure hope its better else where.
     
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  3. Kennesaw Kid

    Kennesaw Kid Super Moderator Staff Member

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    You can do all the proper PTI you want and the lights will be working......the rusted out rattle traps will break ground and blow out, or fall out due to the rusted out light bucket....how are you to know it is out when it is daylight?. .....You can't see the running lights going down the road .....
    You dont know until you so your POST trip inspection....You can only patch j7nk for so long.......KK
     
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  4. Cab Lizzard

    Cab Lizzard Well-Known Member

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    How about the PM's that have bar code scanned and update on sticker with sharpie. Never get anything checked.
    Shop supervisor runs dead line trailers to rail so his numbers look good. I always wondered what happens on the other end with these ? Good guess would be nothing.
     
  5. Cab Lizzard

    Cab Lizzard Well-Known Member

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    Scrap aluminum 67 to 70 cents per pound Friday.
     
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  6. albag

    albag Pray for peace!

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    As someone who was a codefendant in such a case. I strenuously and vigorously disagree. YRCF secured the best legal representation money could by. And stood by me and my innocence.
     
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  7. joes bar and grill

    joes bar and grill Well-Known Member

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    I don't know anything about your case, but I can tell you that YRC did what was in their best interest,it's not just YRC you could use any trucking company name, the fact that it worked out in your favor is merely a coincident.
     
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  8. albag

    albag Pray for peace!

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    In your opinion
     
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  9. LEHIGH vALLEY

    LEHIGH vALLEY Well-Known Member

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    1. "Bum" is a figure of speech
    2. As I recall I was responing to some one who said he was tired us "Complaining"
    3. Management has no damn business turning anything over to the Rank & File. It's not our place to judge or be Judge by anyone self appointed or company appointed wanna be safety person. And I really don't give a rats snotball what people like you think of me! Your opinion means nothing to me! So don't get pissed when I won't even come in the same damn room with people like you.
    4. FMCSA? Oh you just opened a frekin can of worms here! How many times have I written up AND red tagged a trailer only to see the outbound send it out that very night with a load to the break bulk? How many times have I written up my P&D tractor up for the same damn problem only to be told that they can't get the parts needed, (Not a Yellow, Roadway, Or YRC specd tractor, Bought secondhand from Ryder). Only to have that part break and put me on comp for now almost a year. Hell I even ask the then Dist Mant Manager to get a piece of angle iron to use and was told no.
    My point? Simple! Quit waisting my time talking about useless crap when I write equiptment up and NOTHING HAPPENS! Oh and guess what? You can't blame the driver for this one!
    Do the right thing, Write the broken down crap up, Nothing happens, PEOPLE GET HURT! But there are still those who can't understand why Teamster like me think the whole safety program is a DAMN JOKE!
    I will not be "Coached" "Judged" "Talked to" or anything us you care to call it by anyone who takes it upon themselves to be put in a position over another Member! As I've said before, I'll pick my own heros dammit!
     
  10. Real Teamster

    Real Teamster Active Member

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    Thank you for the compliment. I must say that you as well have eloquently stated in your post. Agreed 110% on two of your points: a) training others takes a skill set that some don't have, and some of them are unwilling to acquire. b) we learn from the folks we're training as well, and include that in future training. That is the mark of a good trainer. Thanks again for your post!
     
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  11. joes bar and grill

    joes bar and grill Well-Known Member

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    Yep
     
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  12. Real Teamster

    Real Teamster Active Member

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    Finally! We have something to agree about. I too have written up and red-tagged equipment, and seen it loaded anyway. That is exasperating to say the least. A red-tag is just that; "out of service". I could tell you stories on this that would curl anybody's hair (if they have any hair left to curl). But LV, this is part of the whole training regimen, and a BIG reason why the training and safety functions have been taken over by Teamsters. We don't want our brethren being hurt, especially because of the carelessness of others. I am so sorry that you're out on work comp. Been there, done that; so I know the drill. Truly, you have my sympathies there. BTW, I love that caboose in your handle.
     
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  13. LEHIGH vALLEY

    LEHIGH vALLEY Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the compliment about my "Caboose" LOL!!
    Maybe now you can understand why I have such a problem with the whole thing. Management should not be passing the buck to labor, They should do their damn job!
    It's a very hard thing for someone like me to approve of this when YRC can't even do the right thing when the Driver writes things up.
    I don't need a camera or to talk to anyone! I need the company to do their job and fix the equiptment!
    Remember there is usually more than one reason why anybody has a "Hardened" opinion! Lets just say I see things differently than others. Pain is a great motivator!
     
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  14. Real Teamster

    Real Teamster Active Member

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    You mention shipping trailers to the breakbulk. Obviously, you work at an EOL terminal, that I'm guessing doesn't have it's own shop. What goes on at EOL's so far as maintenance is a different animal than at terminals with shops. Doesn't make it right. We differ dramatically on one point, though. "They" are not the company, and "we" the labor. In my opinion, "we" are the company. "They" are the transient management staff. How many terminal managers have you seen come and go in your tenure? I can tell you that I've been here for 25 years, and am on terminal manager number 11. The stabilizing force of this company is "us".
     
  15. LEHIGH vALLEY

    LEHIGH vALLEY Well-Known Member

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    We have a shop and a machanic. Units that are red tagged should not be used until repaired. There is a reason for a red tag and as the Dutch say it's "Not for pretty"!
    I was at Stroudsburg for 24 years so I know how a break works. How many pissing contests did I have there about something wrong only to be told it's "OK TO RUN" or "DEFER TO PM" Only to call the Pa D.O.T. inspector and have him meet me at the Water Gap or up in I-380. Low & behold Roadway has to send a vendor out to fix it. Gee! How much did they save by doing that?
    I'm been at this company for 32 years and pretty much seen all the tricks used by lazy supervisors when it comes to safety. Filed God knows how much paper on equipment, Overloads, Un-makable bids and the lot. Now this? Camera's?
    You & I can go on and on about the right & wrong of it. I guess we agree to disagree and leave it at that.
     
  16. Real Teamster

    Real Teamster Active Member

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    I come from the "Swamp Holly" heritage; we didn't have anywhere near the magnitude of problems that you describe. It wasn't perfect by any means, but our equipment maintenance was much better in years past than it is now. My favorite Yellow story though was when a guy blew an engine on one of the Brigadiers back in the 90s. He could see the hole in the block where the rod came through. He called in to explain, but they insisted on sending out a vendor to "check the cause of the breakdown" before they would send the tow truck that he needed. ARGH!
     
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    mud Wonderin'

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    "I come from the "Swamp Holly" heritage;"

    The Big R, 1981-2009!!
     
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  18. Grappy

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    Swanp holly, yes sir. Gotta question for coches on safety team. Cleaned up outbound monday at major break and all kinds of freight and weight still show on dock. Kind of throws a curve to our fellow brothers on the road. Imo that is more of a safety issue than teaching someone basic rules.
     
  19. Cab Lizzard

    Cab Lizzard Well-Known Member

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    In an effort to boost numbers blowing the freight on trailer is faster than sorting the proper freight to load.
    All outbound loads should have scale ticket attached to manifest. So driver should know what he is taking. But many just climb in and go never check anything.
    That is part of why CSA score is in the toilet.
     
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  20. LEHIGH vALLEY

    LEHIGH vALLEY Well-Known Member

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    I thinks has more to do with the equipment than anything. When the CSA score was last published what was the item caught most often? I think it was the equipment, (lights and such) Not the Drivers or their logs, HOS, Tickets or anything like that.
    I might be wrong so someone correct me will ya?
     

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