Cartage anyone?

Discussion in 'Holland' started by Griz, Feb 21, 2017.

  1. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash Piss on our Flag, get a boycott against you.

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    Excellent point. There has been more than enough time to get out.
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  2. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash Piss on our Flag, get a boycott against you.

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    If you were laid off, I think that it's pretty safe to say that the other companies were slow also.
    We can argue whether staying or leaving was intelligent or not until the cows come home, but I'll guarantee you that you have a lot of co-workers that wish that they would have tried harder to leave..... several years ago.
    To each their own, but there is no right or wrong answer since everyone has their own plans and reasons for doing what they did.
    According to Wong, you are just as much of a coward as myself and others who have left, since you tried to leave.
    And the same goes for everyone else on here that either left, tried to leave, or even had a wondering eye.
    You were supposed to just stay and fight city hall. I knew the company was against us, but once the union proved that they were against us, I knew it was time to leave.
     
  3. troubleman84

    troubleman84 Well-Known Member

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    Things is it's their choice too beat up one who stayed is absurd
     
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  4. troubleman84

    troubleman84 Well-Known Member

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    When previous slate was voted out our local changed for better. TM and two supervisors who didn't want to honor contract work rules and keep good ole boys mentality in are all gone now. Road drivers sticking together now has new TM attention now that where willing to screw his whole inbound operation up.
     
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  5. henry j

    henry j Banned

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    One needs to know just why each one voted YES. Was it because they felt they had no choice due to age, previous work comp claims, existing injuries, pressure from home (wife), just needed a couple more years, loyalty to company (poor reason), OR was it that they have no desire to "rock the boat", they don't know how to say "no" in any situation, it is God's will (no matter what happens), they prefer to pretend there is no real problem, so a YES vote will make the company happy.
    Some people undoubtedly had good personal reasons to vote YES. Some are just sheep, going along with what other people they know are telling them and yet others prefer to ignore the problem altogether and simply do not vote at all.
    Some vote NO because they know the past history of every company that has tried this before. There are no "survivors" that I am aware of.
    As a result, the "problem" has not gone away, it has only gotten bigger while the company continues to prepare for the inevitable by hiding assets and selling other assets in favor of "bankruptcy court safe" leased assets instead. All the while the top brass is busy padding their own retirement funds and exit bonuses.
     
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  6. Snark Monkey

    Snark Monkey Well-Known Member

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    NO it is not the happiest day in your life. Trust me on this!
     
  7. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash Piss on our Flag, get a boycott against you.

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    Exactly. And to beat up on, or call someone a coward for leaving is also absurd. We all have/had our own personal reasons for the decision that we made.
     
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  8. the5tolls

    the5tolls I hope we make it to 19....got my NO ready

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    Does anyone know this past Monday there was very high numbers that called in sick at several of the terminals.....was that some sort of protest that was planned or was it just coincident? Louisville, Cleveland and Joliet are the ones I heard about.
     
  9. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash Piss on our Flag, get a boycott against you.

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    If you guys keep playing that game the customers will decide your fate instead of your incompetent management.
     
  10. buffalobill

    buffalobill Well-Known Member

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    The customers were probably happy there wasn't a crop dusting sterling and a crop dusting driver around.....
     
  11. the5tolls

    the5tolls I hope we make it to 19....got my NO ready

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    I don't know.....it would probably be a pretty close race!......I would guess a photo finish!
     

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