CSI Dallas is conducting a full investigation.It seems that the fund administration.Is trying to deflect the subsequent and possible failure of the CSPF.On everything except bad management decisions on behalf of the administrators of said fund.Could some of the problems the CSPF be on that big bad investment firm called Goldman-Sachs? Afterall a few years ago.Goldman -Sachs was going to pull the carpet out from under the struggling YRCW? A final hour volleys by Mr.Hoffa.Changed their tune at GS.Could it be that GS was charging way too much in each trade by the CSPF managers.Way more than usual charges and commissions.Than for similar trades by other funds.after the bailout money was given to GS.Plus less laws on oversight on riskier investments.GS gambled on much more riskier invedtments.Because their margins were covered by the excess bailout money.Because see they Goldman-Sachs.Didnt give twohoots in hell for our well being and solvency of our pension fund.Because if they lost money.They were still covered in allaspects.They didnt care about all the retirees and future retirees monies.Because they got theirs scott free without the risk.If a deep forensic investigation were to be performed on past trades.I bet that investigation would find large irregularities.This plan's administrators don't want this to happen.Afterall they have the law on their side to cut payments on retirees monies by 30 percent maximum.Otgerwords their rears are covered by the crominibus legislation.What a scam
Thanks, I checked for the updates and I sent Susan a letter, short and brief to the point. Everybody should go here and read it, every line. This is important. Thanks again, does anybody know where Susan retired from?
Like the 6 billion dollars UPS paid to leave the CSPF.What's the emergency? 2026 is quite a ways from 2015.Something is up.its unfair right now to start talking pension cuts.Investigations ought to ensue.There is alot of money missing.
What's the emergency? 2026 is quite a ways from 2015.Something is up.its unfair right now to start talking pension cuts.Investigations ought to ensue.There is alot of money missing.
"How did the Fund become so severely underfunded?
Baby Boomers are retiring in record numbers and the union workforce has been steadily declining for years. As a result, the Fund currently has more than three times as many retirees as active members — so, far fewer contributions are coming in than benefits being paid out."
There once was 4 active paying for 1 retiree in the fund....now it is 1 active paying for 5 retirees....KK
I dont refute that fact KK.However it wasn't to many years ago.That the fund fired it's investment management company.Because as the fund administrators said..The investment company lost their money.So a new one was hired.Then the recession.Then the merge of Yellow and Roadway.Then the pay cuts.As a tag along on the last 5% giveback.We were told that YRCW could no longer pay the full contractual pension payments.The union administration placed a new account for the 25% pension payment.Of which YRCW agreed to.Then I believe a couple more cycles of recessions.Then the UPS opt out.Then around 2008.The stock market exploded to record numbers.As one retiree told me.He had called CSPF.A year or so ago.Was told by a CSPF employee.That there wasn't nothing to worry about.Because of the stock market being blistering hot in record territory.That the fund was gaining quite a bit.So what happened?? The fund calls it a rescue plan.Retirees are on the cusp of a possible 30% cut in their fixed income.All fingers are pointing at us to take it in the britches.Without any inquiry or investigation into the anatomy of this so called failing fund? The only thing shielding the funds administrators is the crominibus law on pension reform.Of which this is called a bailout for the adminstrators.Doesnt seem to be anyone being held accountable for losing this Pension funds money.Nothing is going to happen to the administrator's salary."if something isn't done by 2026 the fund COULD go insolvent.They are crying wolf too soon and they have this 30% maximum deduction backing them up.I do understand the ratios of withdrawals to incoming revenues.This seems too easy of a cop out[/QUOTE][Q="Kennesaw Kid, post: 921903, member: 159"]"How did the Fund become so severely underfunded?
Baby Boomers are retiring in record numbers and the union workforce has been steadily declining for years. As a result, the Fund currently has more than three times as many retirees as active members — so, far fewer contributions are coming in than benefits being paid out."
There once was 4 active paying for 1 retiree in the fund....now it is 1 active paying for 5 retirees....KK
I dont refute that fact KK.However it wasn't to many years ago.That the fund fired it's investment management company.Because as the fund administrators said..The investment company lost their money.So a new one was hired.Then the recession.Then the merge of Yellow and Roadway.Then the pay cuts.As a tag along on the last 5% giveback.We were told that YRCW could no longer pay the full contractual pension payments.The union administration placed a new account for the 25% pension payment.Of which YRCW agreed to.Then I believe a couple more cycles of recessions.Then the UPS opt out.Then around 2008.The stock market exploded to record numbers.As one retiree told me.He had called CSPF.A year or so ago.Was told by a CSPF employee.That there wasn't nothing to worry about.Because of the stock market being blistering hot in record territory.That the fund was gaining quite a bit.So what happened?? The fund calls it a rescue plan.Retirees are on the cusp of a possible 30% cut in their fixed income.All fingers are pointing at us to take it in the britches.Without any inquiry or investigation into the anatomy of this so called failing fund? The only thing shielding the funds administrators is the crominibus law on pension reform.Of which this is called a bailout for the adminstrators.Doesnt seem to be anyone being held accountable for losing this Pension funds money.Nothing is going to happen to the administrator's salary."if something isn't done by 2026 the fund COULD go insolvent.They are crying wolf too soon and they have this 30% maximum deduction backing them up.I do understand the ratios of withdrawals to incoming revenues.This seems too easy of a cop out[/QUOTE]![Q="Kennesaw Kid, post: 921903, member: 159"]"How did the Fund become so severely underfunded?
Baby Boomers are retiring in record numbers and the union workforce has been steadily declining for years. As a result, the Fund currently has more than three times as many retirees as active members — so, far fewer contributions are coming in than benefits being paid out."
There once was 4 active paying for 1 retiree in the fund....now it is 1 active paying for 5 retirees....KK
30 percent? Maybe. Maybe if you retired from ABF, YRC or some other employer who still contributes to the Fund. If however, your employer closed without paying their withdrawal assessment your reduction will be closer to 60 percent. Remember the cuts will be applied in three tiers. The first tier is applied to those "orphans" whose employers did not pay their withdrawal assessment. The law is clear. It requires that the reduction must be made to 110 percent of the PBCG insured rates for the first tier before anyone in the second tier will be cut. So those like me will see a $2800.00 monthly pension reduced to $1100.00 per month before the cuts move to the second tier. Only after those like me have taken the maximum cut will those in the second tier be cut. Since YRC and ABF still contribute albeit at different rates the real guessing game is how much will those retirees be cut. It will also be interesting to see how the retirement benefits for those still working and contributing will be affected.
my guess is eventually a 100% cut. It means that a 45 yr old on a dock with 20 years PD, will get zero in 20 years for 40 years @ age 65.they waited too long to cut. But big truck says no hurry.. It will also be interesting to see how the retirement benefits for those still working and contributing will be affected.
my guess is eventually a 100% cut. It means that a 45 yr old on a dock with 20 years PD, will get zero in 20 years for 40 years @ age 65.they waited too long to cut. But big truck says no hurry.