Is the 34 hour union agreement authorized by the DOT or just the union?It is. It’s just people don’t like a rule so they ignore it. I’ve been with YRC, Holland, and ABF in the past 10 years. The 34 hour union agreement was posted at all 3 places. People just ignore rules they don’t like.
The 34 hr reset is a DOT thing.Is the 34 hour union agreement authorized by the DOT or just the union?
As I posted earlier, the companies and the union came to an agreement not to use the 34 hour restart back in like 2008 or 2009. You can’t get a ticket from the DOT but you can get a letter and discipline from the company and the union.Is the 34 hour union agreement authorized by the DOT or just the union?
Not using a 34h restart is not trying to circumvent the law. If anything, it is a bit more stringent than what the law allows....That's my entire point. Nobody seems to know what the real law is because the companies all try to circumvent the law to their benefit.
I think the biggest problem is they all post this stuff in road driver heavy areas. The city guys are starting to push up against the max hours because the company can’t hire anyone.
That's my entire point. Nobody seems to know what the real law is because the companies all try to circumvent the law to their benefit.
Is the 34 hour union agreement authorized by the DOT or just the union?
I'm glad that I've spent most of my career as a city driver and didn't need a log. And now with my e-logs, none of this crap matters.
Depends. The e log where I work will let you drive after 14 when using the 16 exception. I don't think you can ever drive after your 14th hour.I'm glad that I've spent most of my career as a city driver and didn't need a log. And now with my e-logs, none of this crap matters.
You actually can. Has to be a 5 day a week run, starting and ending at the original terminal though. I have to use it every now and then. Just can’t go over your 11 hour driving limit.Depends. The e log where I work will let you drive after 14 when using the 16 exception. I don't think you can ever drive after your 14th hour.
I stand corrected. ThanksYou actually can. Has to be a 5 day a week run, starting and ending at the original terminal though. I have to use it every now and then. Just can’t go over your 11 hour driving limit.
I use it in the city all the time. I follow what the law says. The union cant supersede the law and can kiss my ass.
Sorry it’s not very clear.
It sounds like there are a bunch of companies that create their own set of rules, which often conflict with the DOT regulations.
like doing a drop and hook, waiting for a load, unloading or reloading trailers and showing it as a break on the top line ... scabsIt is. It’s just people don’t like a rule so they ignore it. I’ve been with YRC, Holland, and ABF in the past 10 years. The 34 hour union agreement was posted at all 3 places. People just ignore rules they don’t like.
I don’t care what anyone does. People are asking what the policy is, I see that sign every day with the rule. The union only has this rule to keep dues numbers as high as possible. Whoops! I mean to keep more people in good paying jobs! Lol.I use it in the city all the time. I follow what the law says. The union cant supersede the law and can kiss my ass.
Yes it can, but I'm usually not even close to any of the violations. And my e-log warns us of any potential violations ahead of time. It's on display.If you are still working and on the street it will effect you!