Deadly shooting at Texas Church

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Keepingon, Nov 5, 2017.

  1. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    I noticed this thread is slowing down in posts.
    I think we're just about over this particular mass shooting.
     
  2. CCXdriver

    CCXdriver Well-Known Member

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    Who's ready for the next one?
     
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  3. Bart

    Bart Well-Known Member

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    Nah just to many facts for y'all!
     
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  4. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    I would say that these shooters in the last year have set a very high bar to try to beat.
     
  5. Rastus

    Rastus ......Deplorable.....

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    The people who get killed in America with rifles each year is in the hundreds.
    It's statistically zero so why all the emotion over rifles?

    Because it's the one thing on the lefties list they can't check off yet.
     
  6. CCXdriver

    CCXdriver Well-Known Member

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    The people who get killed in America by terrorists each year is in the tens.
    It's statistically less than zero so why all the emotion over terrorists?
     
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  7. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    Well they don't call these shooters terrorist because to us terrorist are Muslims with head gear shouting in Arabic.
    Maybe It illustrates our narrow mindedness? :idunno:
     
  8. Rastus

    Rastus ......Deplorable.....

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    It's more than in the tens and building. If a large percentage of them had their way they would kill us all, look what Isis did in the Middle East. Nip it in the bud.
    Gun owners aren't out to wipe out nonbelievers. They just want their guns.
     
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  9. Rastus

    Rastus ......Deplorable.....

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    Because they aren't using terror to reach a political end like Muslims are.
    These shooters are just crazy but if you want to redefine terrorist go ahead, you do it with a lot of other words, there slick.
     
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  10. DCM_Doc

    DCM_Doc Well-Known Member

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    You are correct that put in a situation like this most people's accuracy goes down. I saw one article that gave the accuracy loss at about 30%. The neighbor that confronted the killer apparently was dead on with his shots which validates the report that he was an NRA instructor. "Shotgun Joe" approved using a shotgun for self defense even though he said to point it up & shoot which would scare the bad guys away. In the Texas church shooting a shotgun would have worked if in range because most likely some pellets would have hit the killer in the head where he had no protection from his Kevlar vest. I fear somebody with a shotgun more than a person armed with a pistol. Whatever the weapon might be the gun grabbers want to disarm law abiding citizens.
     
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  11. buffalobill

    buffalobill Well-Known Member

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    The shooter was hit by the nra instructor, who correctly used a rifle. If you want to put down someone with body armor, you have to be able to punch through it, or hit him with something big enough that blunt trauma stops him.

    Kevlar vests are useless against rifle ammo, unless they have the ceramic plates in them, iirc.

    A shotgun would suck against a guy with a rifle and body armor, only the resident worthless bum would try and spin it differently. .....
     
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  12. Bubba74

    Bubba74 Well-Known Member

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    As the saying goes

    When seconds count the police are minutes away

    All these people pushing for gun control, lead my example, disarm your security details
    then we can move forward
     
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  13. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook

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    You don't decide someone else's constitutional rights.
     
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  14. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    We should remover the semi autos from circulation in my learned opinion.
    We can have revolvers ( even those we're used in many crimes in the 60's & 70's)
    pump shotguns, lever action and bold action rifles even some of the fun black powder stuff.

    But we do need rid of weapons that can kill a room full of people, there is no justification for having them.
    Remember the next mass shooting is just around the corner and it could involve your loved ones or anyone else here on the board.
    It just don't happen to strangers my family was affected by the mentally unstable and guns.
     
  15. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    I want you to think about this logically please..
    We here in the USA are already regulated from owning many weapons. Machine guns for one, almost any kind of explosives, and many other kinds of military weapons.

    And I don't hear any of you crying about it.
    You accepted that you don't want me to own my own nuclear bomb.
    Why can't I own one if I could afford it?
    Thats taking away my constitutional rights.:1sm364jumpbed:
    But your right, you don't want me to have one of those:couch:

    So this business that your gun owning rights are protected is really skating on thin ice.

    Common sense tells us this is not working
    You guys are in denial.
    Wake up and smell the coffee!:coffee1:
     
  16. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook

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    I never said you can't own your own bomb.

    The Right to Bear Arms shall not be infringed. I want an M1Abrams.
     
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  17. Rastus

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    Agree but I want c-4.
     
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  18. buffalobill

    buffalobill Well-Known Member

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    I'm in stupid ny, I just want regular magazines, modern rifles, and no more stupid pistol permits!
     
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  19. buffalobill

    buffalobill Well-Known Member

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    If the nra instructor had a shotgun, he would have been another victim. If a guy has a kevlar vest on, and you have a shotgun, your only hope is to break his ribs with a slug from the force.
     
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  20. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook

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    Or, if he's that good a shot- a deer slug (70 caliber bullet) to the head. I admit I'm not that good.
     
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