FedEx Freight | Denver center gets Monday morning surprise

Help me out here. I went to work for af I agreed to their rules of work. Fed ex comes along and buys them, I never agreed to their ways of doing things. I never signed a form saying I do or took some purple oath. Now lets say I refuse a drug test( which I would never do because peeing is something I excel at, and its easy money) How can they do anything to me?

It's real simple, it's call a condition of "continued employment". As long as those conditions don't break any laws, you're subject to them.

Here's an example:

Let's say the old AF policy was to allow you as many days off as you thought you needed. Then FedEx comes along and says you only get 4 every six months. Well, it doesn't break any government laws, so guess what? You get 4.

I'm not really sure why people don't get this. It's FedEx's business. As long as they comply with government regs, they're in the clear. If this were not the case, how could they make you wear a black belt as a condition of continued employment??

Get it now?? And if you choose to start your own business and you think your customers would prefer to see your employees in black shoes, guess what......they wear black shoes.

It's only fair, really. What if you did start your own business and one of your customer facing employees decided that it would be neat to have earrings hanging off of every part of their face and you decided that, as a business owner, this wasn't good for business, and you told him / her to take them off? Then he / she says it's my constitutional right to express myself and tells you to go screw yourself. Then you loose customers because of someone's "constitutional rights".

Constitutional rights are about what the state can do to you; not what private enterprise can require. If that were not the case, I guess you could reasonably show up to work whenever you wanted and the owner would have no recourse.

And last, but not least, AF never required anyone to sign any contract and any time that spelled out what or what was not required......Mr. Garrison was a whole lot smarter than that. And if you don't agree with the rules that Mr. Smith has layed out, you're welcome to find another job. Simple as that.

Peace
 
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I'll say it again just in case you didn't see it before. They didn't come to the employee's houses to test them. They tested them at work. Smoke it at home if you are so inclined. Just don't come to work under the influence.

You still haven't explained how testing someone who is on duty, at work is intrusive.

What you don't seem to understand is that I cannot smoke at home. They do not test for actively being under the influence. They test to see that you smoke at it all. They are not testing me for being at work under the influence. They are testing me because they can. They want to "catch" me, which is why you are considered guilty until your pee proves you innocent. That is *** backwards to the way this country is supposed to run. If you're ok with that, then you should be just fine with anything else the government wishes to impose upon us. Right? It's intrusive because they have NO reason to test me, but have the right to do so. You don't see that as intrusive? Really? And you complain about Obama making us a socialist nation? Really?

In testing us that way, they force a preconceived notion that ANY residue in my system makes me impaired, which is completely crap. In a word, they are forcing their morality on me.

And to be clear, I have worked along side people so hung over they could only grunt. Yet, they get a pass to hit the road. They may be clear of alcohol, but not the after effects.

Look, they can test me until I'm a shriveled pee deprived corpse and they aren't going to find anything there.

I just don't think it's right, and it certainly isn't American.
 
They want to "catch" me, which is why you are considered guilty until your pee proves you innocent. That is *** backwards to the way this country is supposed to run.

If they considered you guilty until your pee proves you innocent then you'd have to wait until the results came back.

roog
 
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If they considered you guilty until your pee proves you innocent then you'd have to wait until the results came back.

roog

But the only conclusion you can draw is that they think you are guilty, because they are testing you, so in reality, you shouldn't be able to drive until the results come back. What if I'm pumped full of something they don't detect and after obtaining my fluid I go out and kill a bus full of nuns. How did random make anyone safer?

Or better yet, I'm clean when I go in, then out in the clinic parking lot, I shoot my arm full of heroin, and off I go. Random testing didn't keep anyone safer.

What random does is catch a few people that smoke pot. It may get the lone over the road guy on speed, but he can drive until the results come back. How does that make the public safer?
 
But the only conclusion you can draw is that they think you are guilty, because they are testing you, so in reality, you shouldn't be able to drive until the results come back. What if I'm pumped full of something they don't detect and after obtaining my fluid I go out and kill a bus full of nuns. How did random make anyone safer?

Or better yet, I'm clean when I go in, then out in the clinic parking lot, I shoot my arm full of heroin, and off I go. Random testing didn't keep anyone safer.

What random does is catch a few people that smoke pot. It may get the lone over the road guy on speed, but he can drive until the results come back. How does that make the public safer?

It gives the public a warm, fuzzy feeling, kind of like the way I feel when chaining up wearing my fur-lined leather thong.
 
But the only conclusion you can draw is that they think you are guilty, because they are testing you, so in reality, you shouldn't be able to drive until the results come back. What if I'm pumped full of something they don't detect and after obtaining my fluid I go out and kill a bus full of nuns. How did random make anyone safer?

Or better yet, I'm clean when I go in, then out in the clinic parking lot, I shoot my arm full of heroin, and off I go. Random testing didn't keep anyone safer.

What random does is catch a few people that smoke pot. It may get the lone over the road guy on speed, but he can drive until the results come back. How does that make the public safer?

Franklin :clap:

A bus full of nuns ????
in Puget Sound ???????

:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:


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But the only conclusion you can draw is that they think you are guilty, because they are testing you, so in reality, you shouldn't be able to drive until the results come back.

Please dont give them any ideas, or we will be working the dock until the results comeback.
 
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