I'm NOT about to get into a big debate with this guy "big steve". So this is it, Carolina was going down the tubes before ABF BOUGHT them. Had ABF not BOUGHT them every Carolina employee would had been out of a job. So enough of this "merge" BS. As far as lawsuits go. There is a former Carolina driver sitting here in my house as I write this who will tell you that it was Carolina people who filed a suit. ABF management is not stupid, they know what they are doing. One of the problems was thourgh out the years people just couldn't get it into thier heads that ABF is a very profitable company and always has been. They just never showed it. The problem with ABF today is that they kept too many former Carolina management people that contributed to the demise of Carolina. Had ABF gotten rid of alot of them things would had started off much better. These people kept the Carolina management mentality which had always been one of Carolina's biggest problem. A good example is a man like Ron F. This man is one of the "BAD APPLES" that ABF has working for them today. People like him only make things worse for a company, by causing poor morale and "bad attitudes". ABF never had a morale problem till after the Carolina "fiasco". They weeded out alot of the Carolina management right away. They just didn't go farther up the ladder. They were sold a bill of goods on these people and ABF took them on their word.
Had ABF known what kind of head aches they were going to have with Carolina people from top to bottom they would had done things alot different. Like closing every Carolina terminal, waiting and then start rehiring after weeding out the bad from the good.
no need to debate brother
you state :
So this is it, Carolina was going down the tubes before ABF BOUGHT them. Had ABF not BOUGHT them every Carolina employee would had been out of a job.
quite possibly carolina would not have lasted long
that is why the IBT negotiating committee did not strike them
as for abf buying them that statement is entirely inaccurate
if you are correct then it would have been an
ENDTAIL in the seniority application
it was not a dovetail was ordered by the national COO committee
as far as carolina guys filing suit, why? they retained their seniority slots
the Beam family may have filed suit for other reasons but definetly not the carolina teamsters
i do know for a fact that some abf teamster employees did take legal action agaist the IBT to no avail
if need be i could send you a link to display what i am refering to
it was to no avail
you state :
Had ABF known what kind of head aches they were going to have with Carolina people from top to bottom they would had done things alot different. Like closing every Carolina terminal, waiting and then start rehiring after weeding out the bad from the good.
i agree with the management assessment totally but disagree with what you say when you refer to your brother teamsters that were from carolina
i'm sure there are some bad eggs there but to stereotype all carolina employees into a single category is wrong
i'm sure there are as many
heads from the abf side as well but i would not go so far to call or categorize all of them in that description as that would not be a correct nor fair assessment
abf guys must live up to the fact that abf management handled the MERGER poorly in respect to you guys:Flame-On:
you see this is what went down
ark best ( abf 's parent )purchased worldway (carolina's parent)
ark best & worlway were not signatory to the NMFA only their subsidaries were
once that deal was consumated the subsidaries all fell under the surviving parents name
at which point it was decided to "consolidate" them
or in otherwords merge them into one entity thus dovetail applies
refer to some of my earlier posts on the subject for more detail if need be as no real debate is neccessary
you just seem to be misinformed that's all
