Dock worker exodus

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  1. icuicp

    icuicp Well-Known Member

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    Don't the drivers want the earlier start times?

    Early in early out , right?

    If it's hard to hang on to the dockworkers and drivers , shouldn't the drivers be the priority? Most new people would like earlier start times and seasoned city drivers usually want early start times yet they are being displaced by dockworkers on the early start times and STILL working a ton of overtime with a later start. This is a lose lose situation if you are a driver.

    A two year dockworker can get a ten year drivers start time.
     
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  2. sucker666

    sucker666 Well-Known Member

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    Bingo!
    It will only make it even harder to hire drivers in the future. It may seem to be smart move if your looking to cut O/R but it will have it’s affect on morale.
     
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  3. Rollin

    Rollin Active Member

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    Yes, I think earlier start times would be a benefit.
     
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  4. wltdo

    wltdo Active Member

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    At our barn a two year dockworker can get a ten year drivers vacation slot
     
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  5. sucker666

    sucker666 Well-Known Member

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    They eliminated some early start time this year and moved all driver forward 1/2 hr later stars and are hiring more dock workers to fill the early void
    The drivers want the early start times
     
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  6. Trucker 206

    Trucker 206 Well-Known Member

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    I’m right there with ya, truckinfool. I have enough years in with the Union so I can exit anytime. I’d like to find something that’s not so rough on the ‘skeleton’ as this job is. It’s just a matter of finding the right fit.
     
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  7. micshol

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    Been here 5 years. I do get vacation bids based on my seniority in the dockworker classification. I don't know how it works in other locations. We have 2 calendars. One calendar is for DSR's only. Most weeks 6 drivers ar allowed off. With the exception of minor changes from year to year based on when we're busy, The count allowed off every week is the same as it was when I started. We have another calendar that the supervisors, office people, and dockworkers are on. We're pretty much allowed 2 dockworkers off on any given day of the year. I'm Senior so I do get whatever vacation I request. When I started dockworkers didn't even bid vacation because there was only a couple of us. Are terminal is not granting vacation to fewer drivers to accomadate the dockworkers. They are granting vacation to dock personal on top of what was already allowed for drivers.
     
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  8. icuicp

    icuicp Well-Known Member

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    What is the top out pay for dockworkers? And how much PTO can you get based on your years of service?
     
  9. micshol

    micshol Active Member

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    Top pay is 19.55. Our PTO is the same as yours. People hired before PTO change will max at 7 weeks on the same schedule dsr's do. Ones hired after the change start at 12 days and max at 5 weeks
     
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  10. radman

    radman moving and grooving

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    What are you guys going to do about dockworkers not getting OT? You organized, is that a priority?
     
  11. Songremainsthesame

    Songremainsthesame Well-Known Member

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    Down in the south OD pays dock workers over 21 top out, no o/t til 60 but full timers get benefits and retirement.
     
  12. Trucker 206

    Trucker 206 Well-Known Member

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    Good Lord...no OT until after 60??? Has anyone done the math on that? And who’d have the energy to work over 60 just to get OT?
     
  13. sucker666

    sucker666 Well-Known Member

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    They are not organized at our location. If they decided too we would support them.
     
  14. icuicp

    icuicp Well-Known Member

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    In-N-Out managers make $160,000 per year


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    From the bottom up , not from the top down - this is how you build a winning culture in your workplace.
     
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  15. Fly-by-night

    Fly-by-night Only when you care to send the very best

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    yup and the OD dockworker makes out better on the 40hrs and 50hrs at 60hrs they are only $10.25 behind an XPO dock worker getting OT after 50hrs

    OD 40hrs at $21 is $840
    OD 50hrs at $21 is $1050
    OD 60hrs at $21 no OT is $1260
    XPO 40hrs at $19.55 is $782
    XPO 50hrs at 19.55 is $977.50
    XPO 60hrs w/OT after 50hrs is $1270.75
     
  16. vetran peddleman

    vetran peddleman FOR ENTERTAINMENT USE ONLY

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    You can say that again UN. They are awful at our barn. They fail to block, brace, and strap HM frt., fail to put good 4 way empty plts under frt that needs them. The other day I had 4 rider mowers w/ no plts under them delivering to an equipment place ,w/ no dock. Soooooooooooo, instead of spending 10 minutes at that stop, I ended up spending about 45 minutes linking loads straps together and having the receiver pull each mower from nearly the nose of my 48' er to the tail w/ his fork truck. I don't mind though, thx for the OT ,that's the good part of the story. The bad part, my production looks bad causing management to think ill of me and possibly removing me from this run that I like.
     
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    highspeeds ENTERTAINMENT USE ONLY

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    It's not rocket science. Plenty of studies and success stories to prove it.
     
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  18. highspeeds

    highspeeds ENTERTAINMENT USE ONLY

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    I can see them adding a mess of dock hands here. The drivers don't wanna do anything. Getting out with my 7 route after 11. Missing appointments. If you had people out there doing something at all, we would get out much more quickly. And as far as that outbound. They can have it. I'll gladly go home. If I wanted to make 6 figures this year I would have stayed on the road.
     
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  19. icuicp

    icuicp Well-Known Member

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    WHY on Earth can't these incompetent higher-ups staff the place and train the people correctly? The amount of money they would save by sending top pay drivers home and having dockworkers actually DO dock work would be staggering.

    Let me be clear: city drivers typically don't mind earlier start times ( inbound ) but working the dock on outbound after driving and working inbound is what most drivers don't want ANYTHING to do with.
     
  20. Fly-by-night

    Fly-by-night Only when you care to send the very best

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    The big word in your post was TRAIN. They need to train these dock guy. I have to have 3 trailer reworked this year so far. One was just under 24K and was loaded only have way back. 25,000lbs on the drives 11,000 on the trailer oh and there were only 12 skids in the trailer
     
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