Electronic time clocks question.

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  1. LS1GTO

    LS1GTO Former LTL driver turned package monkey...

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    I think it updates sometime overnight... I can tell you that come Friday, my 5th day, the hours are showing available and for the life of me at first I couldn't figure out where they were coming then I figured it out. And I agree, odd that it counts towards your consecutive 14 hours on duty buy not your 60??
     
  2. LS1GTO

    LS1GTO Former LTL driver turned package monkey...

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    Actually, when you punch in on the electronic time clock, your 14 starts. When you log into the truck, if at all, doesn't matter. But when you do, your 14 began at the time clock. If you choose not to log off duty for breaks or take them back at the terminal after you log off from the truck, the browser will log you off duty because it communicates with the time clock.... Yep, took some time to figure this all out. But I still cannot figure out how your lunches and breaks do not count towards your 60 or 70 hour limit. I don't think our times are updated in real time because I have watched the dam thing show different amounts of on duty cycle time left. I hope someone can shed some light on the lunch and break issue with respect to the 60 hours.
     
  3. ABFer

    ABFer Super Moderator Staff Member

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    That is the way the law was written.
     
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  4. grovercxl

    grovercxl HUH?

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    We need an agree button, because I agree that is the way the law is written but I don't like it...
     
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    ABFer Super Moderator Staff Member

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    There's always :smiliewhs:
     
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  6. LS1GTO

    LS1GTO Former LTL driver turned package monkey...

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    Can you point me to somewhere it is written? I printed the FMCSA rules and tossed it at our TM and he read it, contacted someone, and made a copy for himself. Haven't heard from him about who he spoke to or what the thoughts were. The rules clearly show that lunches and breaks count towards your 14. But nowhere does it state that your cumulative lunches and breaks taken during the current duty cycle shall be added back in as legal time. It would seem to me that it is completely contradictory. Why have a 60 or 70 hour limit when you really don't?
     
  7. joes bar and grill

    joes bar and grill Well-Known Member

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    The 14 hr rule was written to prevent carriers to require their drivers log off duty while waiting to load or unload ( sometimes hours at a time) and then require them to make a long drive. By limiting your tour of duty to 14 continuous hrs, it would eliminate that.
    imho
     
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  9. LS1GTO

    LS1GTO Former LTL driver turned package monkey...

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    Made a phone call today. The 30 min off duty lunch and however many 10 minute off duty breaks you take each day count towards your 14 hours consecutive each day. However, they do not count against your 60 hours or 70 hours for the cycle. As strange as that is, that is the way it was explained to me as it is all off duty time. So I guess instead of working a 60 hour week and getting paid for 57.5, you can actually get a full 60 hour check if you wanted.
     

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