Florida Shooting

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Bart, Feb 14, 2018.

  1. Bart

    Bart Well-Known Member

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  2. Keepingon

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    Very tragic situation.

    Reports are that the 19 year old shooter had been expelled for multiple behavorial issues, has been posting threats on Facebook,
    Pictures of himself with his firearms and threats on instagram and was in a YouTube chat room discussing how to make bombs as recent as last night. Yet somehow his actions caused no alarms with anyone and he was still able to enter the school.
     
  3. jimmy g

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    Reportedly, he also was on Social Media with Syrian Resistance fighters, and Iraqi Resistance fighters .

    This isn't about guns, or gun control. This is about America, 2018.

    Since the mid 1960s, Government has driven Prayer from schools, Government has promoted abortion, Government has split families for 'welfare'. In 1965, most families had two parents. Most families ate meals together. There were no video games or Internet to go surf alone in a kid's bedroom. Kids no longer understand life. Crazies actually think someone they shoot will pop back up and shoot in their brains again.

    We went to church as families. We ate supper together. At the supper table, we actually talked to each other. We discussed school, work, the events of the community, and even the nation. We were in after school activities from music and plays, to athletic teams. We stocked shelves at the local store or pumped gas for the local station. My kids cooked at the local resturant.

    Each of us, and even my kids, had all handled firearms, even hunted, well before age 16. Things like murdering classmates never entered our or their minds.

    Our entire world is on a rollercoaster to Hell, and Media wants to assign seating. IMO, every man, woman, and child needs firearms training, and needs armed for self defense. No one is safe any longer...
     
  4. SuperCourse

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    Has more to do with the internet and social media and the psychological damage done to a whole generation. The internet was a big mistake, nothing we can do about now.
     
  5. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash They will make you look foolish.

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    Now we get to see all of our political snake oil salesmen rush to the cameras with the same tired out rhetoric.............again.
     
  6. Rastus

    Rastus ..MAGA.. AD-FREE USER

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    We grew up with the draft and Vietnam hanging over our heads, drugs, civil unrest, riots to say today’s youth have it any harder they don’t.

    Kids got in fights once in a while and that was a big deal, nobody thought of crap like this.

    Only differences I can think of maybe violent video games, Facebook stuff and the antidepressant or Ritalin type drugs.
     
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  7. Bubba74

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    the gun grabbers are out in full force

    couple this with the 11 police officers shot and killed in the line of duty thus far this year (double that of last year at this time)
    its not a "gun thing" its a culture thing
    The line between right and wrong has been so blurred that people cant see it anymore
    we as a society have lost our moral compass
     
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  8. Bubba74

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    this tragedy may have been limited or even averted, if this security office (who was killed shielding children) had a gun
     
  9. Rastus

    Rastus ..MAGA.. AD-FREE USER

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    Nfl players aren’t heroes, this man is a hero.
     
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    Rastus ..MAGA.. AD-FREE USER

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    Attention ho Handler is at it again.
    You’d think being a Jew she’d know her history after gun confiscation in Germany what followed. The holocaust, history can and would eventually repeat itself.
     
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    I'm sending my thoughts and prayers.
     
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  12. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash They will make you look foolish.

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    Yep. That will be their exact response. Just like the last 50 times. Washington wants to play politics, so they will never do anything to lower the potential of this stuff happening.
    Their thoughts and prayers are falling on deaf ears.
     
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  13. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash They will make you look foolish.

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    The FBI might have also dropped the ball on this shooter. But hey, they are too busy covering up their corruption at the leadership levels to actually do their jobs and protect the citizens.
     
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  14. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash They will make you look foolish.

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    The gun grabbers will spew their b.s. for a week, then it's back to Trump/Russia. We've seen this play out dozens of times.
     
  15. Keepingon

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    It seems the gun laws argument is used as a cover to keep from laying the blame where it should be. In this particular case there seems to be many people who could have taken actions to prevent this tragedy. This article shows some of what neighbors witnessed about this kid. Read it and tell me this was not preventable.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...d-a-life-in-free-fall/?utm_term=.149a9accfe30


    This kid was expelled for discipline issues yet the Principle told Security he was not allowed to be on school property “ if he was carrying a back pack” when he should have banned completely.
    How was a non student in the building and why wasn’t it reported that he was there?
    With his past issues, his known threats were authorities ever notified ? What actions were taken ?
    Last year Facebook said they hired thousands of people to monitor for the types of posts this kid had posted.
    How many people saw his Instagram pictures and never reported anything ?
    He was In A YouTube chat room on how to make bombs the night before,
    why the hell is there a chat room on how to make bombs ?
    When the FBI got a tip on him last year what was the extent and outcome of their investigation?
    He was receiving treatment for mental issues and stopped attending his sessions, did the Drs. Notify police he was not coming in for his care?
     
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    He wanted to be a famous YouTube shooter.
     
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  17. Bubba74

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    first- Who is this person?
    second- was she or any on the left this upset when the looney attack the REp baseball practice?

    its the same crap every time
    sadly when you live in a free society sometimes there may be more violence
    this nut was in the system and govt failed (again)
     
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    Whoever Chelsea Handler is: obviously she intends to (once more) go after 'assault rifles.'. As if it would stop school shootings. In a crowded hallway, my double-stack 9mm would have been a better weapon; far more deadly because of close range maneuverability, and able to match the AR shot for shot.

    We need, as defenders, to be able to match the Bad Guys. Police in Los Angeles were gunned down in a shootout because the Bad Guys always have better weapons (outlawing ARs won't stop them from obtaining them), and the Police had .357 revolvers.

    Arm the Teachers. Put armed Security in every school. If taxes need raised to pay it- stop funding Foreign Aid, and use that money here. Same for a Border Fence. America is under attack. We need to be able to defend ourselves, and our kids...
     
  19. jimmy g

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    Unlike Mags, who really Does want guns banned- I don't believe the Dem Leadership really does. Same with Immigrantion policy. They need to keep throwing these two issues against the wall and losing in Congress, so their Base turns out for elections. If school shootings actually stopped, Dems would lose elections. They NEED Dead Kids to have power. Sorry. The Truth hurts...
     
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  20. Keepingon

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    This school apparently does not even lock the doors.
    My younger son graduates college this year but during his last year in High School they Installed a security system where you have to go the main entrance when visiting you ring the bell and face the camera answer who you are and what your business at the school and someone WALKS down to escort you in to the main office.
    Any other door gets opened during the unmonitored time it sets off an alarm. Monitored time is during the hours students are coming into or exiting the building two teachers or other staff members are at each entrance to monitor it and be sure only students are entering. I’m shocked to learn its not standard at every school in the country.
     

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