Ford moving ALL small car manufacturing to Mexico

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  1. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    Say the gubbermenit throws out a big conntract for solar panels and a few of these companies ramp up for it.
    When the contract is finished they would still have a large capacity for production. And thats when prices will drop making it feasible for you and I to put them on our house. Now it's still too expensive for most of us, but one day it could be very reasonable.
    And if you buy some land off the grid you may have heard how expensive it is to have the power company put down 1/4 mile of wire just for you.
    Many of the company's warranty them to produce power for 25 years, thats not bad at all. After that they may drop off some but still could be producing 50 years from now.
     
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  2. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook

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    It'll work when a Private company figures a way to make it efficiently, cheap for the consumer, and profitable. It'll never work as long as Government is forcing mandates and paying the bill.
     
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  3. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook

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    That's our story... stick with it!
     
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  4. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook

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    I guessing you've never owned a business???
     
  5. Bart

    Bart Well-Known Member

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    My electric bill runs about $100.00 a month and people around here are spending $20-30k for solar set-ups without the subsidies. I always wondered how much they charge to remove and replace the panels when you need a new roof. Given my age and years to recoup cost I'll pass.
     
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  6. Bart

    Bart Well-Known Member

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    Your guess would be wrong! If you need to know it was trucking and deregulation killed my goose!
     
  7. Rastus

    Rastus ......Deplorable.....

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    jimmy g Kook

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    Mine too. I hauled Army Equipment mainly, and an occasional M60 Tank from Letterkenny to Red River or Fort Bliss. Some came in, cut and went broke. Then another came in and cut, went broke. I refused to cut- sat, and went broke. That's competition. Consumers today couldn't afford phones, cars, clothes, or food if deregulation hadn't happened. It's none of governments biz to get involved in biz. Government is to defend, and not much else.
     
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    DCM_Doc Well-Known Member

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    That is what I was making reference to. The 535 MILLION tax payer dollars Solyndra stole & then filed bankruptcy left a sour taste for many Americans & they lost interest in solar energy. Solar power is feasible but government does a poor job when it gets involved. The only government funding or tax incentives should be for successful energy production that provides AMERICAN jobs.
     
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  10. pilot87

    pilot87 Well-Known Member

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    Hyperbole?... Hardly..... With pollution getting worse around the World....a bubble isn't such a bad place.....

    Hey.... Nice chatting.... You bring some valid points....but we disagree on others.... Makes things interesting around here....
     
  11. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    Yes its expensive now and your power bill is low.
    Lots of the young people with kids and washer a dryer going, air conditioning at 68 degrees and a pool pay closer to $500 a month.
    I pay $250 and thats just two of us set between 76-79 degrees.
    When its cheaper it may work for a lot more of us.
    They mount with racks on the roof, yes they would need to come off for a new roof. Some mount them in the yard if you have a good size yard, I'd rather have that set up. Use underneath for growing shade plants
     
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    My electric runs around $50 a month, I'll pass.
     
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  13. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    Your doing a good job for our environment
    Thank you
     
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    SuperCourse Well-Known Member

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    70% of our electricity comes from natural gas and hydro, about 30% from hydro, another 20% comes from biomass burning wood product waste, an abundant supply created by the timber industry, coal and oil generate 6% of our electricity, I feel no guilt. Maine generates more hydro power per capita than any other state east of the Mississippi.
     
  15. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    There is a cost to the environment with dams also, with the fish migration. Especially the Salmon fisheries but may other fish go up rivers.
    I know a lot of people burn wood in the winter but that too releases captured carbon back into the atmosphere.
    We have a ways to go
     
  16. Rastus

    Rastus ......Deplorable.....

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    I wonder if the family who uses $500 a month in electric takes reusable grocery bags to the store. If they did that would be very enviro-friendly.
     
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    There are fish ladders around the dams.
    I'm more concerned with the eagles and other birds killed by windmills.

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    Wow. That is really sad.
     
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    Yes it is, it's extremely disturbing. It gets a pass because Jeff Immelt of GE gave Obama a good bootlicking. Windmills are a hideous scar on the environment and a total joke as energy producers.
     
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    Mine comes from a Duke Energy coal- fired plant. Two years ago $159 @ month
    For a one year fixed rate contract. Last year, $145. This year, $131, no matter how many lights are on.
     
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