Happy Thanksgiving but not for everyone

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Magoo, Nov 28, 2013.

  1. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash Piss on our Flag, get a boycott against you.

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    Let's see here.........
    A person either pays a higher premium (than what they had been paying) for their new BarryCare......OR.......pay their old (lesser) amount to a doctor directly.

    Seems pretty obvious which way they will go. They will just pay cash to the doctor and tell BarryCare to kiss off.

    It's already been proven by several people FROM BOTH PARTIES, that a lot of people will see their premiums go UP. So cash would help them keep the cost down.
     
  2. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    Yeah oh well thats life
    but how should we fiance it?
    Should we raise tax's on you or raise tax's on the rich?
    I want to be fair about it.
     
  3. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash Piss on our Flag, get a boycott against you.

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    Translation: Find a way to fraud the govt.! Get on the govt. dole!
     
  4. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    Premium have gone up thats true
    But you do get a more comprehensive policy.
    That said you must buy one if your employer ( for most) doesn't provide you.
    And if it strains your finances you qualify for a subsidy.
    If your doing really well then you have to pick up the whole costs.
    You guys are all probably big dollar drivers because your always complaining about poor people and your always on the computer.
     
  5. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash Piss on our Flag, get a boycott against you.

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    Good answer.
    Have Govt. policies that help create jobs and get people off their hinder. The money coming from these "new workers" will load the treasury.
    No new or higher taxes required. See above.
     
  6. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    All the rest of the (modern) World has health care provide one way or another.
    If it were so bad they would have quit ages ago.

    Stop the fight, stop resisting, let go of the rope now, it's time Flash
    Go towards the light
     
  7. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash Piss on our Flag, get a boycott against you.

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    Stop the presses! You just admitted it. I thought BarryCare was supposed to be affordable?
    Comprehensive alright. Now we have 80 year olds paying for vasectomies and birth control. What a great idea.
    It's already been proven that even with the subsidies, many people will still be paying a higher rate than they were before Barry got involved. It's impossible to change from a "modest" health care plan to a "Cadillac" plan without the costs sky-rocketing.

    The low income people won't have much change now. But it's the younger adults and those who were just getting by that will be hurt the most. Lots of people were making enough money to NOT get any subsidies, yet were just getting by after paying the bills. So now, they don't quite qualify for the subsidies and their insurance cost just went up. So add them to those in the poverty line now. Congrats.
     
  8. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash Piss on our Flag, get a boycott against you.

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    As soon as you can provide me with facts that show ObamaCare can be funded without more debt and more taxation on the American people.......I'll jump on board.:coffee1:
     
  9. dcmilkwagon

    dcmilkwagon Armed, not a victim

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    Bull.... Why does my 75 year old mother need a policy that covers birth control? After a community organizer came along and dictated what the insurance companies have to cover she has to pay an extra $500 a month in case she gets pregnant and wants an abortion? Only a moron would agree with Obama.
     
  10. dcmilkwagon

    dcmilkwagon Armed, not a victim

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    Just because other nations do something, doesn't mean they are right. How many hundreds of years did most of the "modern" world believe the world was flat? Or that the earth was the center of the universe? Just because a few countries steal money from the working population of their nations to "give" healthcare to the non-producing leaches of their societies, doesn't mean that it is right.
     
  11. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash Piss on our Flag, get a boycott against you.

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    And if socialized medical is so good, why do the Canadians come to America for their health care? Hmmmmm.
     
  12. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook

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    So... explain how some middle income guy who HAD insurance (that Obamacare Outlawed) will now be able to pay his bills PLUS health insurance that costs him 600 more a month?
     
  13. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    They can buy travel insurance for when they come to the states.
    They come to Florida for the winter every year some have beach Condo's others must slum with the rest of us off beach.
     
  14. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    If he were buying his own insurance before it will probably be somewhat more but a better plan.
    1000- 1400 a month was not unusual for older couples to have to pay in insurance premiums prior to ObamaCare.
    At your age Jimmy you need all the coverage you can get
     
  15. cmsdock

    cmsdock Active Member

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    You want to be fair? Everyone pays the same tax percentage.
     
  16. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash Piss on our Flag, get a boycott against you.

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    You can make fun of it if you choose to. But Canadians coming to America for their health care proves that Socialized medicine sucks.
     
  17. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash Piss on our Flag, get a boycott against you.

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    Be care now. The truth is slowly slipping out. It looks like you guys are slowly changing your talking points.lol

    And why does Govt. get to decide what I think is a "better plan". A "better plan" is one where I don't have to pay for services that I will NEVER need.
     
  18. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    Thats call dumb not fair!
     
  19. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    Woman will be paying in to the system for your possible prostate trouble
    so there; your even
     
  20. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    They live in a democracy of some sort up there, if they don't like it they can vote it out.
    So far that hasn't happened and I don't think it ever will
     

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