Holiday disaster looms as UPS workers threaten to strike

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  1. Freightmaster1

    Freightmaster1 Well-Known Member

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  2. wongway

    wongway -15% Pay , Never forget

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    oh NO don't shut er down the SHEEP won't be Happy with that , just cut there pay & work em more hours !
     
  3. Elwood

    Elwood Question Authority

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    Don’t you have some giblets to sauté or something?
     
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  4. mysticobra

    mysticobra Just here.

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    And be like us? No way dude!
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  5. ABFer

    ABFer Well-Known Member

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    My guess is that Hoffa wouldn't let that happen, it would hurt UPS too much for his liking.
     
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  6. 7072205

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    Amazon will have there strike in Europe. Will they have one here too?
     
  7. marty dotson

    marty dotson New Member

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    Stand tall ups grow a pair of Balls, just say no!
     
  8. Triplex

    Triplex Experienced stalker

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    Naw, shut them down so shippers will go with non-union FedEx instead, that's the ticket!
     
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  9. yrc-atm

    yrc-atm commodities relocator

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    You've never stood up for anything have you?
     
  10. Triplex

    Triplex Experienced stalker

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    Stood up for tough negotiations, yes. Advocated shutting a unionized company down when the competition is non-union, absolutely not.
     
  11. yrc-atm

    yrc-atm commodities relocator

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    So UPS should never strike as their basically sole competition is non-union
     
  12. Triplex

    Triplex Experienced stalker

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    Never said that. I said I did not advocate shutting a unionized company down. We're not in the 1960's or 70's when unionized LTL dominated and UPS was also unionized and dominant in parcel and any shutdown would usually be universally supported by the predominantly unionized jobs. Today that's not the case for LTL or for parcel. Shutdown a unionized company and the non-union jobs will not only continue operating but they will also get an opportunity to steal customers. Strikes/shutdowns are not something to be used casually. Not today anyway.
     
  13. wongway

    wongway -15% Pay , Never forget

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    Normal cheerleader response , don't fight back or they will shut us down ?? Here's a clue UPS or YRCW will never ever shut down they both got money falling out of their ass !
     
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  14. Canadian Flyer

    Canadian Flyer They Call Me CF, Eh

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    You don't really understand how badly it would impact the money you seem to think they have if you strike. If UPS' workforce walks before the Christmas rush, customers will flock in droves FedEx, DHL and other parcel carriers. It won't shut UPS down, but there's gonna be fewer jobs to come back to with fewer customers willing to ship with UPS.

    It's not about being a cheerleader for the company. It's about preserving the handful of remaining Teamster jobs out there. You would rather throw your brothers and sisters under the bus so you can get a raise? Is that what you're trying to say, Wong? Negotiate away a couple hundred jobs for 5%?

    FedEx, ODFL, Estes, XPO, just to name a few who would benefit from a strike at YRCW. Do you think drivers from these nonunion carriers will support your strike and not pick up your freight? Did you forget why USF Red Star shut down? Customers don't care about you wanting more money. They care about moving their freight. And if YRCF, Holland, Reddaway or NPME don't show up they will find someone who will. Support from ABF and UPSF won't stop the rest of the nonunion carriers from scooping up your customers.

    Here's an example, one you might have even heard of. TNT Alltrans Express, the western Canada division of TNT, was shut down in 1989 after a strike by the Teamsters. Why? Because TNT negotiated a rate with Reimer Express Lines for their customers to keep the freight moving. Most of those customers, within weeks of the strike starting, migrated permanently to Reimer or another carrier. About 800 Teamsters were out of work because they declared exactly what you want to; pay the rate or lock the gate. TNT locked the gate because the strike damaged customer confidence.

    So it's not about being a company cheerleader. It's about knowing the difference between a smart move and a stupid one. Customers won't wait when there's alternatives. Even if you do believe they're made of money (they aren't) that money dries up quickly when they're having to deal with angry customers demanding delivery and calling in scabs to cover them.
     
  15. mysticobra

    mysticobra Just here.

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    Not like it used to be.
    You strike.
    You lose now.
    Your job. Others jobs.
    Customers.
    Companies know this.
    We know it.
     
  16. Canadian Flyer

    Canadian Flyer They Call Me CF, Eh

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    It was different when most of trucking was unionized. If one company was struck, others stood together and refused to pick up struck freight.

    Today, while a strike doesn't mean everyone loses, it does mean there will be problems and some people will lose. Deregulation proved that when a union company falls, a nonunion will be there to pick up the slack.

    Not like it used to be is an understatement.
     
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  17. mysticobra

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    That's what I meant.
    Someone else will just pick it up.
    Even some of our own. (moolighters)
    That's sad. But true.
     
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  18. White

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    Curious if the unionized USPS would continue to handle UPS parcel during a strike.
     
  19. mysticobra

    mysticobra Just here.

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    Post office.
    They are hiring.
    And will certainly pick up those packages.
     
  20. BIG R GUY

    BIG R GUY Hot girly thread photographer

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    They lose more money a year than YRC....
     
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