Thats okay I'm mean not just okay but alright and I don't mean just alright but really okay is that alright?OK, sir train, I was just redirecting because 9 years seemed pretty specific to a post just prior (that would be previous, or before) to that of Swamp, that he replied to, that you in turn replied to. I'm sorry I didn't see any generalities that might have required simplification, train.