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O.K. in response to Wondering99's post "I have a question for the pro conway union drivers" whay are some of you against going union?
Hmmmmmm.... 137 views and not one response as to why not.
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How do you know that if they dug deep enough and long enough like they did with the other organization that some of the same would surface.(just sayin)you want an answer that bad? So you like numbers?
you won't like my answer but I have been on both sides of this fence.
Why not?
easy, count how many times in the history of this company it's officials have been charged, indited, and convicted of illegal activities, documentable charges. Now do the same for the other organization that you want me to sign my future over to. Who has a longer, larger history of questionable practices and greed?
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you want an answer that bad? So you like numbers?
you won't like my answer but I have been on both sides of this fence.
Why not?
easy, count how many times in the history of this company it's officials have been charged, indited, and convicted of illegal activities, documentable charges. Now do the same for the other organization that you want me to sign my future over to. Who has a longer, larger history of questionable practices and greed?
Remember this site is all opinions.
angry much? lol. no I'm not into numbers (even though the company I work for seems to care only about numbers and they treat us like we are nothing but numbers), I was just looking for some insight as to why. Your answer isn't good enough for me though. I don't care how crooked they were in the past, what can they do for me now? If you know anything about what happened to Hoffa Sr. you would know that it is because he was cleaning up the Teamsters that he got "whacked" by the mob, not the union. You wanna talk about signing your future over? We got a 28 yr cnwy guy that is going to retire this month. His pension from cnwy will be $800/month. My dad retired after 30 years and is getting $3000/month (going on 10 years now). Do the math on that future. I too have been on both sides, and believe me the grass isn't always greener on the other side but it sure pays more green to be there.
If you don't trust Con-way or yourself, for that matter, to handle your retirement plans how in the world can you think the Teamsters can do any better.
wonderring99 said:there are two sides here ... you both need to prove that without using a buddy mine said or I heard..
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If you don't trust Con-way or yourself, for that matter, to handle your retirement plans how in the world can you think the Teamsters can do any better.
there are two sides here ... you both need to prove that without using a buddy mine said or I heard..
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And the teamsters are running short of money so that's why they want new "blood". You work to pay their past employees and pray there is something there when you retire. I know several teamsters who are taking their money asap because of that.
Prove your post anosyone
Why Am I against the union? Well, personal experience told me that when they refused to allow me to feed my family when they could not provide me with any employment that the union was more of a benefit to them, than it was to me.
Secondly, I understand the reason for some to choose the teamsters, with their experience in transportation, but you couldn't find a more corrupt criminal organization operating under the premise of sunshine and lollipops than the teamsters. I'm pretty sure you couldn't find one teamsters general president since they created themselves in the late 1800's that hasn't been convicted or at the very least indicted or accused of a federal offense directly related to union activity. Whether it has been bribes, money laundering, extortion, mob influence, or tampering with and stealing dues money, or pension money, these upstanding individuals have done it all in one way or another. Sorry, but I can't see myself giving those racketeers my dues or pension money to hold on to because they tell me they have my best interests at heart. They are politicians, nothing more, nothing less, they will tell you anything you want to hear to get you to sign a card so they can pad their stats.
I'm not so sure why anyone needs this. I have had my problems here in the past, with many labor related issues. I take to the FOS, then the SCM, then the RM, then the regional HR rep, then right to GO and and I don't stop till they listen, and guess what, they have never turned me down when I proved why I was right. Putting a union in here takes that right away from me, I will no longer be allowed to make my voice heard, someone else will now be my voice. Sorry, but I prefer to stand up for myself, not have someone else do it for me.