I Need a New Truck. Any Recommendations?

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  1. RacerX69

    RacerX69 Retired Gear Jammer/IBEW Retired/Wingnut

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    Twenty grand for a 14 year old Ford with 90,000 miles on it. A steal.

    Of the money from your checking account.

    Fourteen grand for a 14 year old rustbucket with over 150,000 miles on it. Another steal.

    I see these Fords with no room under the hood to do maintenance and repairs and it makes me glad I don't work on them anymore. In 2007 the county road shop I worked at bought several brand new F-250 pickups with the diesel engine. If the turbo had to be removed the factory manual said to take the cab off.

    What?

    Take the cab off to r&r the turbo?

    That is just stupid.

    Why didn't the engineers at Ford put an access panel on the floor?

    To take the turbo off of the Cummins engine in my Ram you open the hood, unbolt it, and take it off. Just like that. Of course in 13 years and 125,000 miles all I have ever had to do was change the oil, replace the front brake pads, replace the batteries a couple years ago, and replace the tires once.

    Take the cab off? Come on.

    Sheesh!

    Ford's "Better Idea".
     
  2. sharpshooter

    sharpshooter Well-Known Member

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    LMAO!!!

    Hey they must have made it easy to take the cab off??

    Saw a F250 on craigslist here, where the guy put a Cummins in it askin 20k
     
  3. RacerX69

    RacerX69 Retired Gear Jammer/IBEW Retired/Wingnut

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    Well they say there are only 4 bolts holding it to the frame.

    But.

    They.

    Fail.

    To.

    Mention.

    The.

    Other.

    Stuff.

    The front clip, i.e. the bumper, grille, core support, radiator, CAC, air conditioning condenser, fenders, inner fenders, hood, batteries, fuel lines and the associated wiring.

    Child's play.

    I have mentioned that swap before. Chevy guys are doing it too.

    Gotta be a reason.

    In my humble opinion, the Cummins swap actually increases the value of the pickup. Historically V-8 diesel engines were problematic, compared to inline diesels. The early attempts GM made by converting the gasoline engine were a disaster. The Duramax is a better engine, to be sure, but there are still issues.

    Same for the various Powerstroke engines. The glow plugs need to be changed periodically, and are usually rusted in place. A lot of Ford diesel owners have asked me if I would consider taking on removing the broken ones they tried to change themselves and then change the others. They always go back and give it another go after I tell them it would be time and materials. And I have never seen one that didn't hemorrhage oil.

    So when that one ad said it didn't leak a drop, I had to laugh.

    Another GM V-8 diesel that was a flop was the 8.2 liter Fuel Pincher medium duty engine from the 1980's. I did the headbolt upgrade on about 30 of them, and they still had head gasket problems. I also changed about 10 of them out in GMC 6500 medium duty trucks. They were tucked tight to the cowl. You had to either cut a hole in the floor or beat it back from the outside to do the head gaskets. The floor had an access panel to get at the turbo and the bell housing bolts, something that Ford didn't do on their pickups. Changing a starter was difficult at best.

    The phrase boat anchor comes to mind.

    We were really happy to see the fleet get changed out to the International medium duty trucks with the inline diesel engine. Much easier to work on, and a thousand times more reliable.

    Oh, and better torque too.
     
  4. sharpshooter

    sharpshooter Well-Known Member

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    Here it is

    2003 F250

    I don't know what all that mumbo jumbo is about this and that in the ad but..

    I get leary of stuff like that, my father in law just had a high performance motor put in his 87 Silverado at Rick Hendricks "City Chevrolet", and even they screwed it up, taking it back out now and putting regular 350 in it....what an ordeal he's had dealing with those "Professionals" They can win multiple Cup titles but, apparently can't put an engine in an old truck!!
     
  5. 1953randy

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    There is a company called "destroked" that specializes in putting Cummins in Fords. Seems to have it down to a science. Just bring your big wallet!!!
     
  6. ABFer

    ABFer Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I wouldn't be surprised if the motor alone cost $20,000.
     
  7. RacerX69

    RacerX69 Retired Gear Jammer/IBEW Retired/Wingnut

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    You can get a rebuilt 6bt 12 valve Cummins engine or about $3,000.

    A later ISB 24 valve will set you back about $4,000.
     
  8. ABFer

    ABFer Super Moderator Staff Member

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    That is surprising low if you ask me. And that is without a core exchange of the same engine?
     
  9. sharpshooter

    sharpshooter Well-Known Member

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  10. Woody

    Woody Sons of Trump

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    I got gas....with those prices.
     
  11. ABFer

    ABFer Super Moderator Staff Member

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    These ads make me feel like I got a steal and I still got a 170,000 mile truck!!
     
  12. ABFer

    ABFer Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Gas is good unless you want to two a heavy trailer.
     
  13. Woody

    Woody Sons of Trump

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    We had the 460 in are 250's.... constantly over 8K on loads...lol. I miss the one I drove.
     
  14. sharpshooter

    sharpshooter Well-Known Member

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    we use to move a train car full of potatoes with a F250/ 460...that thing was a beast!!

    I may go that route, it would take me a lifetime to put as many miles as some of these used diesels have, and at 15k cheaper, I ain't worried about 5mpg difference
     
  15. sharpshooter

    sharpshooter Well-Known Member

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    Like this for 9500, with a 454, low miles

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  16. Apostolic

    Apostolic Super Moderator Staff Member

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    In 1979 I bought a Dodge 1/2 ton 2 wheel drive, 4 speed tranny with the granny low gear.
    I was able to go up hills in mud that 4x4's had trouble with,as long as I had some weight in the back.

    That truck lasted 10 years,but because of the salt my county uses in the winter,the darn thing rotted out.
    If I lived in the South I think I'd still have that truck.
     
  17. Woody

    Woody Sons of Trump

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    Thats what I would do... im telling ya what; ive had many trucks and "that was the very best by far"
     
  18. Woody

    Woody Sons of Trump

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    CHevy......lol. pos
     
  19. sharpshooter

    sharpshooter Well-Known Member

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    You'd look good riding around in this AP...nice old southern truck
    1982 Dodge D150 stepside pickup
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  20. sharpshooter

    sharpshooter Well-Known Member

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    Another 1 for only 2k bucks

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    1982dodge ram 1500
     

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