TForce | Just What Can The "teamsters" Promise Us?

CFer said:
I'm not saying anyone is more right or wrong than the other. What I'm saying is that a lot of the information given by union supporters that many anti union think is not accurate is a lot more truthful than people realize.
I think both sides give to much BS.
 
UPSF_GLAD TO BE NON-UNION said:
I understand the MC guys being upset about the O/UPS Freight pay scale...it was forced on them, but no one from O should be griping.
I know I understood all of this when I was hired...so if I didn't like it...I should have moved on to a teamster company to have all that stuff and be at the bottom of a hog board and never get out....
loosing a bit of delay and D/H pay is a small price compared to sitting home waiting for a work call all week.
Wouldn't it be nice to get the delay pay? It benefits everyone company wide. Let's keep our seniority and make this company a superior place to work for. Maybe all the LTL companys will follow, before you know it we might be recognized as skilled labor.
 
steve5 said:
Wouldn't it be nice to get the delay pay? It benefits everyone company wide. Let's keep our seniority and make this company a superior place to work for. Maybe all the LTL companys will follow, before you know it we might be recognized as skilled labor.


Did they not say they would take the best from both companies??? Just see MC equipment being used.......
 
Job protection

HEAVY-METAL said:
It's not a secret where I stand on the union. I just want to see what kind of feedback I get to my question. Just straight-up answers. No slamming. No "spin", please.

"What can the union "PROMISE" me? In writing.
What they can promise you in writing is job protection. In the State of North Carolina a employee with out a contract can be fired for any reason with or with out cause what so ever. Period....(sex,race,creed,religion,other EEOC is exempt) And when they fire you all you can do is gone home and tell your family. You have NO LEGAL RIGHT to do anything about it. NLRB or no one can help you at all. It is the END. There is NO laws on the books in North Carolina to help you at all. You are just gone. They don't even have to give you a reason. There is no law to help you also on that. BUT!!!!! with a contract it ain't over at all. That is what signing a card can promise you. And of course it would be in writing in you contract. And that is the "NO SPIN TRUTH" I watch O'Rielly all the time.......:)
 
Toxic said:
What they can promise you in writing is job protection. In the State of North Carolina a employee with out a contract can be fired for any reason with or with out cause what so ever. Period....(sex,race,creed,religion,other EEOC is exempt) And when they fire you all you can do is gone home and tell your family. You have NO LEGAL RIGHT to do anything about it. NLRB or no one can help you at all. It is the END. There is NO laws on the books in North Carolina to help you at all. You are just gone. They don't even have to give you a reason. There is no law to help you also on that. BUT!!!!! with a contract it ain't over at all. That is what signing a card can promise you. And of course it would be in writing in you contract. And that is the "NO SPIN TRUTH" I watch O'Rielly all the time.......:)
And thats a Fact-or
 
Toxic said:
What they can promise you in writing is job protection. In the State of North Carolina a employee with out a contract can be fired for any reason with or with out cause what so ever. Period....(sex,race,creed,religion,other EEOC is exempt) And when they fire you all you can do is gone home and tell your family. You have NO LEGAL RIGHT to do anything about it. NLRB or no one can help you at all. It is the END. There is NO laws on the books in North Carolina to help you at all. You are just gone. They don't even have to give you a reason. There is no law to help you also on that. BUT!!!!! with a contract it ain't over at all. That is what signing a card can promise you. And of course it would be in writing in you contract. And that is the "NO SPIN TRUTH" I watch O'Rielly all the time.......:)

You might get some of these guys to believe you but I think its a bunch of :Cow-Pie:

The union is not the only one that can protect you. NLRB can and will get your job back if you have been fired unjustly. Or for safety reasons.

I know for a fact because we have a driver fired for refusing to drive a tractor. I forget what the problem was. But he was out for quite awhile and he was reinstated will all back pay.

With out the union. So try to build up your teamsters without your scare tactics it only makes must of us.:puke:
 
Skeeter said:
You might get some of these guys to believe you but I think its a bunch of :Cow-Pie:

The union is not the only one that can protect you. NLRB can and will get your job back if you have been fired unjustly. Or for safety reasons.

I know for a fact because we have a driver fired for refusing to drive a tractor. I forget what the problem was. But he was out for quite awhile and he was reinstated will all back pay.

With out the union. So try to build up your teamsters without your scare tactics it only makes must of us.:puke:

Actually what he is saying is true, not in all states of coarse, for example. The wonderful state of NH give's employer's the rite to fire willingly without just cause. Unless it goes to court of coarse, but it is not hard to fabricate thing's.
 
Amen

CFer said:
I'm not saying anyone is more right or wrong than the other. What I'm saying is that a lot of the information given by union supporters that many anti union think is not accurate is a lot more truthful than people realize.
AMEN!!! CFer...I agree 100%
 
Thanks

Accelerator said:
Actually what he is saying is true, not in all states of coarse, for example. The wonderful state of NH give's employer's the rite to fire willingly without just cause. Unless it goes to court of coarse, but it is not hard to fabricate thing's.
Thanks Acceletrator!! Skeeter just hopes it is a bunch of BS. He don't want to find out by getting fired. But it is not BS. In this state that is the cold hard facts. Some anti union people refuse to admit we have job protection and they don't. I will let the readers decide for them self.
 
"Just What Can The "teamsters" Promise Us?"

A follow up to my original post. Like I said they PROMISE you job protection in writing in you contract.
[example]
When discipline is issued to a employee who is covered by my contract it must be in writing to the employee and the local union. Must be sent by USPS CERTIFIED mail to them both (employee&local union). That way all parties has proof of the warning to the employee. Nothing can fabricated that way. If the company don't have a return receipt of the warning letter when it wants to pursue it (suspension, terminate) then it is not worth anything at all. Nothing can happen to you. That way they cant make up lies on you. And the warning letters can not be issued out side of 10 days of the date of the alleged infraction. Or it is worthless. And if all the above is complied with then the letter might stand. But still there will be a meeting between the Company and the Local Union to argue it. (only is a suspension or termination is pursued by the Company) And after 9 months they cant use any warning letter against you.
Once again the "no spin truth" And no one on this board can tell me about my work rules and what is true and what is not. Because I know my contract and read it regularly. No one can spin the truth here. Because I have my work rules in writing in my hand in a book called "MY CONTRACT" I read it all the time.

P.S. I am not trying to be hateful or anything but no "glad to be non union" person can tell me what protection I have and don't have. Because I have the my contract.......
 
Indiana is one of the states that can fire you without cause unless they violate federal guidelines (ie-age or race discrimination etc).You can be let go so the boss can bring in a relative or a friend. A union contract sets guidlines that prevent this and set standards that must be followed.Fact not fiction.
 
Toxic said:
Thanks Acceletrator!! Skeeter just hopes it is a bunch of BS. He don't want to find out by getting fired. But it is not BS. In this state that is the cold hard facts. Some anti union people refuse to admit we have job protection and they don't. I will let the readers decide for them self.
You guys all seem to forget about the peer review board......:wacko: .
 
usf-indy said:
Indiana is one of the states that can fire you without cause unless they violate federal guidelines (ie-age or race discrimination etc).You can be let go so the boss can bring in a relative or a friend. A union contract sets guidlines that prevent this and set standards that must be followed.Fact not fiction.

The same in NH.

My new jobclass is "Freight Redundancy Specialist".

This Person will have the ability
to tolerate mentally challenged dispatchers
who excell in the art of ignorance redundancy,
and can withstand driving 18 wheelers at
top end speeds in circles.
 
Johnnybegood said:
You guys all seem to forget about the peer review board......:wacko: .

The peer review board does'nt mean jack shat, ( at least not now) particularly when it say's in the rule book and I quote " all judgement's are made by the terminal manager . and these rules are subject to change at any given time for any reason. Without notice!!!.

This give's the terminal manager the right to fabricate to cover his or her anal opening. With legitimate just cause for termination.

My new jobclass is "Freight Redundancy Specialist".

This Person will have the ability
to tolerate mentally challenged dispatchers
who excell in the art of ignorance redundancy,
and can withstand driving 18 wheelers at
top end speeds in circles.
 
Isn't there any labor boards in the government that covers unfair..

terminations?

I know we have one in my town,their listed in our phone book.
Most of us LTL truckers are free born Americans,and as American tax payers we do have some rites still in place.

It may take sometime,but I'm sure a good lawyer would be able to either restore your employement,or get you a nice tidy cash settelment if you've done nothing wrong to have been terminated at your company.

Union,or non-union we are still living in a free country,as long as you pay your fair share in taxes.

I also know that there are labor laws that aply to the unfair treatment of United states citizens.
 
Apostolic said:
I also know that there are labor laws that aply to the unfair treatment of United states citizens.
Good luck getting the Gov't to get involved.....under this Administration they don't give a damn about us little guys.
 
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