Keystone Pipeline decision:Obama screws blue collar workers again!

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  1. Bubba74

    Bubba74 Well-Known Member

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    the Kochs make more money taking a dump in the morning than you will in the next 3 years
    they did not lose

    http://www.jsonline.com/news/wiscon...rails-in-watertown-b99612253z1-343167792.html


    gee if only there were a better way
    like pipes that could carry the oil from point A to point B
     
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  2. Gilly

    Gilly Banned

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    We've learned this is Warren Buffet vs. Koch Bros. Warren Buffet wins Obama said so.
     
  3. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    It takes more than money to be a good citizen in my book
     
  4. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash OBAMA'S CREATION.

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    You Libs crack me up. And you claim to be a "real Conservative". :lmao:
     
  5. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash OBAMA'S CREATION.

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    What does it take for you to proclaim someone as a "good citizen"? The person has to be willing to just pour money into the system so that the fraudsters can soak it up.......and never speak ill of it?
     
  6. Pup Driver

    Pup Driver Well-Known Member

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    If I were a lib I would admit it and why not it is what it is . You claim to know more about me than I know about myself . That seems to be a trait with the far right they have an unfavorable opinion of others who are not in the right winged radical group .
     
  7. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook

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    We only know what posters post. We judge each other by what we read. Posters like me reading your posts see you taking a Socialist type position 99% of the time. It's the only evidence we see... Even in the quoted post above.
     
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  8. Bubba74

    Bubba74 Well-Known Member

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    if there is a shooting
    the left runs out and says "if we could save just one life"

    however, when it comes to jobs
    "if we could create one job"
    they sing a different tune
     
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  9. Pup Driver

    Pup Driver Well-Known Member

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    Well if I were a socialist I would be for right to work . That would mean that the dead beats will be paid the same and receive the same benefits that the dues paying member receive . Why pay dues when ya can get something for nothing because of the efforts of others is pretty much the socialist philosophy . Seams that if your pro union here its the same group that come out with derogatory comments about that poster . That's the 99% response from the right winged mentality not only here on t/b but also in Washington . In my opinion there hasn't been a good republican since Eisenhower and Teddy Roosevelt b/4 him . Fact is I always voted republican till I started to see that in( again ) my opinion they weren't interested in representing the middle class they went with the corporate champagne givers and how they can please them .
     
  10. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook

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    You proved me correct.
     
  11. Gilly

    Gilly Banned

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    Socialist would require everyone be in a union. The one the state chooses.
     
  12. Pup Driver

    Pup Driver Well-Known Member

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    Explain , I don't understand your reply . Its like a no reply .
     
  13. Pup Driver

    Pup Driver Well-Known Member

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    So does that mean that you think the union has or should have to represent those that don't pay as much as a dime to the union? I can't go to a nonunion trucking company and tell them I want to be in the union and by law they have to hire me but on the other hand we have to except a non union person in a union trucking company and they do not have to pay dues but have to be given free benefits from the union . Again explain why the union must give free benefits to people who don't pay for those benefits .
     
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  14. Rastus

    Rastus ......Deplorable.....

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    No. I was referring to socialism is just communism lite. They make the rules. I believe if someone doesn't want to pay Union dues they should go work for a nonunion company where there aren't any Union dues.
     
  15. Pup Driver

    Pup Driver Well-Known Member

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    Yes I do agree but having said that if there a number of employees who for some reason feel that they need a union and vote for one they should have one . Back in my day if you didn't like the politics of the company you were working for ya could quit and walk across the street and get another union job and those benefits would follow providing it was the same union . Unfortunately that no longer possible .
     
  16. jimmy g

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    I understand it completely. You answered that you aren't a socialist, by speaking as a socialist.

    I'm guessing that you don't realize Teddy R started the Progressive Movement in America that broke from Marx's communism? That explains why you favor him....

    Progressives wanted communism here Slowly. They knew Americans wouldn't go for a communist revolution. Communists want huge central control. Same for progressives. There are mostly socialist progressives here, but there are also repub progressives. Romney, Huckabee, all the Bushes, Boehner, Eisenhower, Kasich , and Teddy all come to mind,
     
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  17. Pup Driver

    Pup Driver Well-Known Member

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    There will always battles over who wants to be king of the hill. Progressives want the power and the capitalist want the same . The capitalist want to have cheep labor and few to no benefits and the progressives want more for those who labor for a living . Progressives want unions and the capitalist want nothing to do with unions . Capitalist gravitate towards lawless countries no EPA no labor standards etc progressives gravitate towards protections for the environment and labor standards . Ya can bang your head on the wall and it will never change . Everyone fights for their own cause .
     
  18. jimmy g

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    True Capitalism is Freedom. That doesnt exist in the USA, or the World. Only in Heaven.
     
  19. Bubba74

    Bubba74 Well-Known Member

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    no they really don't
    what they want is a poor mass that they can control.
    They miss the obvious things like if you double the minimum wage, thus increasing the expense of labor to business that the price paid for said good or service will rise, it has too, thus it will be a zero sum gain.
    Free college, free this, free that, there is no such thing as free it needs to be paid for. The professor making $150K a year is not about to take a pay check so someone can get "free:" college.

    Look at how these progressivist (socialist ) movements have panned out in countries like Venezula, one of the formerly richest nations in S. America, today they cannot keep the lights on.

    Capitalism is free, you are free to succeed or fail based on your merits
     
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  20. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash OBAMA'S CREATION.

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    The only jobs that the leftist are interested in usually cost the tax payers a few million each.......and only come in the form of green energy. They usually last less then a year.
     
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