Lay off

Discussion in 'ABF Freight System' started by vongrimmenstein, Sep 12, 2015.

  1. Muler

    Muler Banned

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    I see you misunderstood. My post was referring to them taking away a week of your vacation thus they get another week of work from you and not having to pay your Health and welfare while you would have been off.
     
  2. Trucker 206

    Trucker 206 Well-Known Member

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    Isn't vacation considered compensable hours and therefore subject to Pension and H & W contributions? I mean, it's not like they can bone you out of a week of medical while you're on vacation. And isn't the NEXT months H & W coverage based on the hours worked in the PREVIOUS month?
     
  3. Muler

    Muler Banned

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    Come on guys. The post was to show what ABF gained by taking a weeks vacation from us. Do you see now? Before we would have taken a vacation been off enjoying ourselves and all the while they would have had to pay into our Heath and welfare for that week. Now we work that week earning them money now. Get it? Do you guys think I don't know the contract?
     
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  4. ABFer

    ABFer Super Moderator Staff Member

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    You are correct, Muler's reference is that by robbing us of a week's vacation there is more that they are not paying besides our time while off. I know, it got a little confusing.
     
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  5. Muler

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    Thank you. Was it that hard to understand? If so my bad,
     
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  6. Trucker 206

    Trucker 206 Well-Known Member

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    I guess I didn't eat my Wheaties this morning. Hang on while I visit the cereal cabinet.
     
  7. Muler

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    Is it cleared up now?
     
  8. AkitaDog

    AkitaDog Well-Known Member

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    Got it! Misunderstood the statement!
     
  9. Muler

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    It was confusing. My bad.
     
  10. cropduster

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    Trucking back then required a certain skill that wasn't as easily duplicated as today times. It was one of the things that drove me to the industry. (doing something that not everyone else could do).No power steering, no air seats,no A/C,no air ride cabs or trailers.
    Duplexes,triplexes and quadraplexes Oh My !!
    Now they have automatics and such so anyone (even if you come out of trucking school) HA-HA-HA can drive one.
    This used to be a profession but is now treated as just more overhead to be trimmed for the benefit of the bottom dollar.
    And they wonder why we stopped caring !!
     
  11. tutone710

    tutone710 Your Retirement Canceled

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  12. Dokratt

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    What ABF is doing reminds me of what Maddy Mouron did with Central Transport. It took him several years but he ended up separating the union from the freight, and dismissed us. I fear that with Judy & co pulling away u-pack and starting their own logistics arm that they may be planning a similar fate for us.
     
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  13. vongrimmenstein

    vongrimmenstein Well-Known Member

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    That is exactly what they are doing. As a business man wouldn't like to get out from under a 700 million Pension Fund Liability & keep your company? I know I would. It's just business. von.
     
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  14. canaryinthemine

    canaryinthemine Retirement....The Job I Was Born To Have!

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    And,......at the corporate level,....we all know they are completely unfettered as far as morality, fairness and honesty goes.........and they only worry
    about Patriotism as long as there's a buck to be made off of it.....
     

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