XPO | LHG Harlingen TX Rejects Teamsters

[Michigan Bill]

So if we get lowered to OD's level, you'll laugh at us? You're a real swell guy.

Not to worry, this latest round of union activity will be enough to ensure that never happens.

this is the problem, if you guys are so keen on your ot after 8/40, get it in a contract, otherwise they will eventually come and say they need to cut OT pay to compete with OD. activity isnt enough, you need yes votes at barns.

 

[Bankrupt]

this is the problem, if you guys are so keen on your ot after 8/40, get it in a contract, otherwise they will eventually come and say they need to cut OT pay to compete with OD. activity isnt enough, you need yes votes at barns.

...or they will simply call it "unsustainable".
That's code for "We are choosing to take this away because we can".

 

[CCXdriver]

this is the problem, if you guys are so keen on your ot after 8/40, get it in a contract, otherwise they will eventually come and say they need to cut OT pay to compete with OD. activity isnt enough, you need yes votes at barns.

Or, the union could just tell us the company needed concessions from us, and that we should agree to them.

YRC's and ABF's contracts aren't looking so hot right about now.

Con-Way is making money hand over fist, yet those two need the employees to give back? And the union blesses this?

No thanks.

 

[Michigan Bill]

Or, the union could just tell us the company needed concessions from us, and that we should agree to them.

YRC's and ABF's contracts aren't looking so hot right about now.

Con-Way is making money hand over fist, yet those two need the employees to give back? And the union blesses this?

No thanks.

gee, maybe if conway is making money hand over fist, you could get your company pension back, along with better insurance. is your company only making money because they have taken your good paid insurance and pension?

 

[Michigan Bill]

oh, btw, it was neat the way you didnt mention ups freight, and what the union contract they have includes. very clever.

 

[Bankrupt]

Or, the union could just tell us the company needed concessions from us, and that we should agree to them.

YRC's and ABF's contracts aren't looking so hot right about now.

Con-Way is making money hand over fist, yet those two need the employees to give back? And the union blesses this?

No thanks.

It's kind a neat that the workforce at Yellow and ABF was afforded the respect and consideration of helping to decide on those concessions.

At Conway, there is no discussion. We get stories.

But what seems cloudy to you and deserves further dialogue is the core cause of Yellow's struggles. Why do you suppose YRC had to ask for concessions?

 

[CCXdriver]

gee, maybe if conway is making money hand over fist, you could get your company pension back, along with better insurance. is your company only making money because they have taken your good paid insurance and pension?

Hmmm, then I guess it would follow that the reasons YRC and ABF are losing money is because of the pension and medical insurance, agree?

 

[CCXdriver]

It's kind a neat that the workforce at Yellow and ABF was afforded the respect and consideration of helping to decide on those concessions.

At Conway, there is no discussion. We get stories.

But what seems cloudy to you and deserves further dialogue is the core cause of Yellow's struggles. Why do you suppose YRC had to ask for concessions?

Yeah, go to their board, and tell them how "neat" it is.

 

[222lifer]

Yeah, go to their board, and tell them how "neat" it is.

Hand some people a $100 bill and they will complain it isn't new.

 

[Bankrupt]

Yeah, go to their board, and tell them how "neat" it is.

Gee Captain Obvious, do you think anybody's going to be happy with concessions?
You glossed pass the question, why do you suppose Yellow had to ask its workforce for concessions?

 

[222lifer]

Hmmm, then I guess it would follow that the reasons YRC and ABF are losing money is because of the pension and medical insurance, agree?

Are they losing money or have they slowly improved along with the struggling economy?

 

[CCXdriver]

Are they losing money or have they slowly improved along with the struggling economy?

They're losing money.

 

[CCXdriver]

Gee Captain Obvious, do you think anybody's going to be happy with concessions?
You glossed pass the question, why do you suppose Yellow had to ask its workforce for concessions?

Because they are unable to complete in the modern marketplace.

 

[222lifer]

They're losing money.

Really? You have the financial data to back that claim?

 

[222lifer]

Because they are unable to complete in the modern marketplace.

Does that marketplace consist entirely of poorly timed purchases leaving little operating capital after the spending spree on credit was over?

 

[CCXdriver]

Does that marketplace consist entirely of poorly timed purchases leaving little operating capital after the spending spree on credit was over?

No, it also consists of trying to apply a labor contract drafted 50 years ago to the modern world.

 

[222lifer]

No, it also consists of trying to apply a labor contract drafted 50 years ago to the modern world.

That labor contract you speak of has supplements that are specifically tailored to the different areas along with local work rules for each terminal.

 

[222lifer]

No, it also consists of trying to apply a labor contract drafted 50 years ago to the modern world.

It had nothing to do with predatory pricing?

 

[CCXdriver]

It had nothing to do with predatory pricing?

That's my point, you're talking like it's1978. Deregulation happened, carriers can set their own rates. It's called competition.

 

[222lifer]

That's my point, you're talking like it's1978. Deregulation happened, carriers can set their own rates. It's called competition.

What it is called is buzzards circling the carcass of YRC driving rates down attempting to put them under. The Teamster's had other plans and went through 3 rounds of concessions to keep YRC above water. This negatively effected those predatory companies also. With YRC labor costs down, the choice the predators made was to take from their workers also. BTW, still waiting for those losing figures from the past quarter.