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Apostolic said:
We had a hard time moving our outbound loads because of flooded roads in New York,and Pa.yesterday,and today.
I desided to try your Teamster advice,so I didn't check out my tractor,warm it up or build up my air pressure,to see how my day would go?

My route trailer was only half loaded today so I figured I may be able to actualy take an official lunch break today.

My appointment deliveries came off ok,but I was sent for a pickup before coming back to do my route.
I got held up,and thats all it took to put me behind,than I had to work straight through the rest of the day to complete my route deliveries and pickups.

The way the freight runs I don't see how becoming a Teamster will change anything?

Just becoming a Teamster,won't put more time in my day to get everything done.

I feel that if I was prepared to leave the terminal as I'm used to,maybe I would of been able to fit a lunch sometime in my route.

I guess when your used to doing things the same way for a long time change is very hard.
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I cannot understand why it is that you cannot check your truck under a pretrip when the rest of us can! I start work, go to my tractor, do a complete pretrip, hook a set together, pretrip them, and put about 10 and a half hours on the road plus work time and get paid for it all.................:duh:

Maybe if you did this everyday on the clock the dispatch would change your start time to adjust for this work and you would still have time to do you day........................
just my honest opinion of course.
 
He's absolutly right . Being a Teamster is not going to change a thing ( for him ). If I was a TM and he ran out of my terminal I'd abuse him like a borrowed mule .

Apo , When are you going to go into that dispatch office and stand up for yourself ?
 
All of you posters are right,about me missing out on breaks.

But as I posted about just stopping for 10 minutes one day.
My outbound supervisor was getting all over me for going to slow,because he has to get all the P & D drivers back by 6PM to load his outbound runs ,and get them on the road.

The UPS Freight system is very flawed.
Everything runs late.

Inbound loads come in late in the morning,the inbound dock has to unload and mostly cross dock to our route trailers which messes up out routes.

When all of us senior drivers get back from our early appointment runs,we have to help the dock crew get all of the freight we need to finish our trailers off, try to straighten out what they've loaded,also secure freight that may fall over in route.

Than we hit the street late,get our deliveries off,make our pickups,and try to get back for the outbound shift to get the linehauls loaded,and on the road.

So you see with this way of doing buisness theres not a lot of time for breaks, unless we have to wait for a dock someplace.
Breaks don't happen.

If our terminal puts more drivers on we can all slow up a bit,to at least get our 1/2 hour lunch,but untill that happens we'er all stuck in this no win zone.
 
acrd signing

signing a union card is signing a legal contract this is what they don't tell you.It's easy to sign but hard to get out of.:smilie_132: :smilie_132:
 
So Johnnybegood the Diads are going to slow us down?

I thought they were going to speed the system up?

I really wouldn't mind being able to get a half hour lunch.
But the way our service is set up at this present time.
Breaks are no where in the equation.
Even the days my route goes very good.
I finish my deliveries faster than normal.
I pull over into a parking lot.
My outbound supervisor must be a mind reader.
That will be the time he's calling to check on my progress.
Seeing I'm not a liar.
I'm on my way to get pickups of one of my co-workers that isn't having good luck with getting their route deliveries off.

Like I say its the service LTL trucking companies offers, that they have to use,and abuse their P.& D.drivers.

As much of a bummer this system is.
Thats the way it goes.
 
john/nyc said:
I would guess that you wont get an answer because pension vesting will be a matter for negotiation. If it hasn't as yet been negotiated then no-one has the answer at this time. However, a union wouldn't negotiate your current pension benefits: only your future benefits. When you retire the two would get combined on a pro-rated basis.
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Thats the biggest thing bothering most of the older employees.
As far as I'm concerned, if the Union wants ALL my pension money...I get all my time!
 
Rebel said:
Thats the biggest thing bothering most of the older employees.
As far as I'm concerned, if the Union wants ALL my pension money...I get all my time!
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It is very very doubtful that the union would negotiate the movement of any of the money in your current pension plan. They will, most likely, either negotiate a continuation of that same plan (with improvements) under joint management of the union and company or they will have the company contribute on a man-hour basis to a new plan which would give credit for the time spent in the current plan so you would be vested in both plans if you have 5 years in the current plan. the amount of the pension would be pro rated when you retire. It is, in my opinion, 99% sure that you will not lose either money or time.

It would not be in the union's best interest to negotiate a loss.
 
allstar05 said:
signing a union card is signing a legal contract this is what they don't tell you.It's easy to sign but hard to get out of.:smilie_132: :smilie_132:
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What makes you think we would want too????

My new jobclass is "Freight Redundancy Specialist".

This Person will have the ability
to tolerate mentally challenged dispatchers
who excell in the art of ignorance redundancy,
and can withstand driving 18 wheelers at
top end speeds in circles.
 
Well if these cards are a legal document..

should we have our lawyer presents to read it over before we sign up?
 
Apostolic said:
For practises I got used to working for UPS Freight formally Overnite.
Now you all know I work straight through the day with no breaks including lunch,other than driving,or waiting for a dock.

I'm also used to coming in early before clocking in.
I check my oil,and water levels.
also start the moter to build up my air pressure,I get my appoinment trailer hooked up,and pre-triped.
Than clock in,and get going.
I do all this so I can get out,and get back as fast as posible to finish loading,and secure my load on my route trailer.

I'm sure I'm going to get some real beautiful responces to my pre clock in practises.
But to get back to my question.
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Here is another example of something that defies imagination. Look at it this way, you are a business. You are in the business of selling your labor to O/UPSF whatever in exchange for cash. It has been opined in other spots in this forum that O is not in the habit of discounting their rates by much, so why are you anxious to give O this discount (the free labor)? Giving your time to O cheats your family in the long run (where/who would you be with were you not at work?).
 
Apostolic said:
should we have our lawyer presents to read it over before we sign up?
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The most important thing to remember is they are the final vote....so yes...if you don't understand what your signing..have legal representation....because after the fact,saying"I didn't realize that was what I was signing" isn't going to cut it.
 
UPSF_GLAD TO BE NON-UNION said:
The most important thing to remember is they are the final vote....so yes...if you don't understand what your signing..have legal representation....because after the fact,saying"I didn't realize that was what I was signing" isn't going to cut it.
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At this point if you don't understand what your signing, you would of had to fall in from some other planet.....
 
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