Message for Corporate. Re: P&D Overtime

Discussion in 'XPO Logistics' started by ScotchNeat, Aug 4, 2017.

  1. ScotchNeat

    ScotchNeat Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    251
    Likes Received:
    306
    Trophy Points:
    63
    So true and for a guy like myself, who one day hopes his seniority will carry him to a place where he can get a better start time, it ain't happening if guys aren't brought in at the same rate guys leave. Myself and many other drivers in the 8-15 yr range have been stuck at the same start time and stuck on the outbound dock.
     
    highspeeds and icuicp like this.
  2. icedriver

    icedriver Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    346
    Likes Received:
    342
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Yup, you get pushed up by more guys below you rather than pulled up by less above you. Got the same thing here.
     
    highspeeds and icuicp like this.
  3. Fly-by-night

    Fly-by-night Only when you care to send the very best

    Messages:
    833
    Likes Received:
    646
    Trophy Points:
    93
    At my barn we could have 3 guys retire and they would be replaced with dock works. As far as I remember we have one that I haven't seen drive a truck outside the Fence since I been here. The other 2 spend over half there day on the dock. So it is no surprise no ones coming in at the bottom we are paying driver wage for dock work.
     
    Last edited: Sep 12, 2017
    dalesr likes this.
  4. dalesr

    dalesr Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    349
    Likes Received:
    339
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Same for me. On linehaul I'm 8 out of 10. My city start time should I bid it would be 10am. If I were to bid flex, which I wouldn't, I would be #1 (and we all know what that means!). So that's what I've got to show for the last 13 years of my life at work. Pretty poor I'll say and if the right opportunity presented itself, I'd be outta here for sure.
     
    trucknfool, highspeeds and icuicp like this.
  5. vppforme

    vppforme Member

    Messages:
    71
    Likes Received:
    41
    Trophy Points:
    18


    Just out of curiosity, what kind of miles are you running as #8 versus maybe the #2 or 3 guy?


    (How many more miles would you be running at those higher spots?)
     
  6. dalesr

    dalesr Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    349
    Likes Received:
    339
    Trophy Points:
    63
    We only run three fac's. 139 miles-163 miles, so no big difference in miles. Via's are usually run by the senior guys but do get passed down. My mileage would not be much different unless I was #1 to a fac.
     
  7. highspeeds

    highspeeds ENTERTAINMENT USE ONLY

    Messages:
    5,966
    Likes Received:
    3,090
    Trophy Points:
    113

    It's amazing the way the downsides have even more downsides to them. Which leads to even more people leaving and it being that much worse for those that remain.
     
    trucknfool, icuicp and Stand4afuture like this.
  8. highspeeds

    highspeeds ENTERTAINMENT USE ONLY

    Messages:
    5,966
    Likes Received:
    3,090
    Trophy Points:
    113

    As it seems many have mentioned. Inbound being replaced with dockhands. Line haul runs being replaced with vans. You are never going to hold anything better. You are lucky to still hold what you have. And if not for so many leaving, you wouldn't even be holding onto that.
     
    trucknfool, dalesr and icuicp like this.
  9. Bloodwidow

    Bloodwidow Member

    Messages:
    75
    Likes Received:
    50
    Trophy Points:
    18
    It's hard to hired drivers right now. It seems to me if we get rid of/move ot, it will be near impossible to hire new blood. We will be just another carrier, nothing to differentiate us from the rest. If the plan is to replace us with contractors, then I guess the company is in a race to the bottom.
     
    highspeeds likes this.
  10. Fly-by-night

    Fly-by-night Only when you care to send the very best

    Messages:
    833
    Likes Received:
    646
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Why is this hard to grasp. You all need to look at it this way. If you owned this company what would you do to say money and make this place more profitable? Would you pay 100 bucks for someone to mow you grass when someone else would do it for 75. So why would XPO keep paying a driver to work the dock for 6-8hrs a day when they can pay someone 7-8 buck less per hour to do the same job.
     
  11. Fly-by-night

    Fly-by-night Only when you care to send the very best

    Messages:
    833
    Likes Received:
    646
    Trophy Points:
    93
    The OT is not the reason we can't get drivers.
    1. no one wants to do this job anymore.
    2. quality of life (ie: working hours) for some people money isn't every thing
    3. the BS that goes on here and at other LTL carriers.
    4. we have nothing to attract exp. driver away from there current job.

    I believe that if XPO offered something like company fully paid benefits we would have a line out the door we would even get guys from FedEx and OD. They would even have to give us a raise if they did that and some might even agree a $.50 pay cut to get it. We can't get driver because we have nothing better to offer then any other company out there.
     
  12. highspeeds

    highspeeds ENTERTAINMENT USE ONLY

    Messages:
    5,966
    Likes Received:
    3,090
    Trophy Points:
    113

    Personal investment. Emotional responses. Willful suspense of disbelief.

    As a general rule, people will react in full denial of something unfortunate about to happen to them.
     
  13. smokin'joe

    smokin'joe Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,039
    Likes Received:
    279
    Trophy Points:
    83
    No I won't :)
     
    CCXdriver, icuicp and highspeeds like this.
  14. highspeeds

    highspeeds ENTERTAINMENT USE ONLY

    Messages:
    5,966
    Likes Received:
    3,090
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Good :shit: ! :6788::biglaugh::lmao:
     
  15. sucker666

    sucker666 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    863
    Likes Received:
    635
    Trophy Points:
    93
    I do agree with most of what you posted here. The only point you have to remember pay rates must continue to have cost of living adjustments going forward . So yes fully paid health insurance would be an attractant but if pay fell far behind the competition and I stress "far" it wouldn't be effective.
     
  16. Bloodwidow

    Bloodwidow Member

    Messages:
    75
    Likes Received:
    50
    Trophy Points:
    18
    I agree that the company needs to do something to attract new blood. My barn is completing with R&L and LandAir. Both are offering $21 to start. Both don't work the dock as us. The Northeast is also completing to keep drivers too. I know of ten drivers that left to go work for Walmart. Which has a worse quality of life then us. They are out 5 days, home 2.
     
  17. smokin'joe

    smokin'joe Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,039
    Likes Received:
    279
    Trophy Points:
    83
    IMO, the reason we can't attract quality, experienced drivers is due mostly to word of mouth. Our guys don't have a lot to be proud of here, other than a check. And we gossip about it......incessantly. Our reputation preceeds us. We need something that sets us apart from other lines, but that'll never happen.
     
    wltdo, Blue-done-4-U, icuicp and 2 others like this.
  18. highspeeds

    highspeeds ENTERTAINMENT USE ONLY

    Messages:
    5,966
    Likes Received:
    3,090
    Trophy Points:
    113

    When people talk about wanting to work here, they get warned off. And asked if they would give a reference where ever they land. That they should keep in touch. Because staying here might not be an option for very long.
     
    icuicp likes this.
  19. Stand4afuture

    Stand4afuture Active Member

    Messages:
    351
    Likes Received:
    247
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Anyone else see the video about having a Towhall servey?
     
  20. dalesr

    dalesr Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    349
    Likes Received:
    339
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Yes, part of the quartly update.
     

Share This Page