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You don't have to fish ask like I do. In my area I borders 2 Conway terminals both are very pro Union....Interesting....Ever since my post 84 went out every single post after that was pro union ... Except upnorth which happens to be neutral...every single one. Went fishing and hit big.
Interesting....Ever since my post 84 went out every single post after that was pro union ... Except upnorth which happens to be neutral...every single one. Went fishing and hit big.
the members want information from both sides of the union argument. Outside members come on this forum and saturate threads with pro union rants, and take personal shots at members who don't think the same way. They don't want to post because they will be attacked too.LOL I won't ask if you got any PMs about highspeeds or instigator. Would it be a stretch to say tolerance has been exercised interacting with them? Thought; I wonder if a calmer and more lucid pro corporation concern might want to stick around without being self-destructed by his "business associates". Conclusion; There is no doubt in my mind that an honest, respectful, and articulate poster from any school of thought would and should be treated in like.
Exactly my point !!!the members want information from both sides of the union argument. Outside members come on this forum and saturate threads with pro union rants, and take personal shots at members who don't think the same way. They don't want to post because they will be attacked too.
Sounds like runaway with his anti union rantsthe members want information from both sides of the union argument. Outside members come on this forum and saturate threads with pro union rants, and take personal shots at members who don't think the same way. They don't want to post because they will be attacked too.
both sides are guilty of this.Sounds like runaway with his anti union rants
Another outsider ... This forum is dominated my outsiders....I'm just one .... This forum is a platform and launching pad for the union...Sounds like runaway with his anti union rants
And you spend the vast majority of your posts on this forum.Another outsider ... This forum is dominated my outsiders....I'm just one .... This forum is a platform and launching pad for the union...
Another outsider ... This forum is dominated my outsiders....I'm just one .... This forum is a platform and launching pad for the union...
well said.I respectfully disagree Runawaytrain. For the union movement to get to this point , there has to be some substance to the issues that are mentioned constantly. I don't think you would have drivers considering a union , a vote , or any kind of organizing whatsoever if there was respect for the drivers intelligence. Most drivers at Con-way started here long enough ago to have a well informed opinion on the direction of the company. I am pro Con-way. I am also pro driver. It seems as though pro Con-way has changed over the years and no longer means pro driver - these 2 ideas conflict with one another now and they didn't in the past. I am not pro union but I do not have a problem with a union at this point ( thanks to the new Con-way culture ) I am not afraid to post my thoughts one way or another. I don't think it's a big deal that people post on a board and try to get you to agree with them - research , find the truth , make up your own mind. Heck , I could get on here and tell you the union has failed in Tennessee at the VW plant BUT , that is not the whole truth - Despite roadblocks, UAW finds a new path in the South Look for the facts - take the time to listen and read. Don't be an idiot.
I respectfully disagree Runawaytrain. For the union movement to get to this point , there has to be some substance to the issues that are mentioned constantly.
I don't think you would have drivers considering a union , a vote , or any kind of organizing whatsoever if there was respect for the drivers intelligence. Most drivers at Con-way started here long enough ago to have a well informed opinion on the direction of the company.
I am pro Con-way.
I am also pro driver.
It seems as though pro Con-way has changed over the years and no longer means pro driver - these 2 ideas conflict with one another now and they didn't in the past.
I am not pro union but I do not have a problem with a union at this point ( thanks to the new Con-way culture ) I am not afraid to post my thoughts one way or another. I don't think it's a big deal that people post on a board and try to get you to agree with them - research , find the truth , make up your own mind.
Heck , I could get on here and tell you the union has failed in Tennessee at the VW plant BUT , that is not the whole truth - Despite roadblocks, UAW finds a new path in the South
Look for the facts - take the time to listen and read. Don't be an idiot.
This talk coming from management from both Con Way and Fed X are all about scaring you that the company can't compete and you will not be able to feed your families when the company close down is pure propaganda . The union is not going to give you guys a contract to put you out of business . The union wants you to stay in business . What good does a dead company do for the union ? What the company could do is fire all the management and hire smarter managers that know how to work with the union employees . Fact is Con Way and Fed X will do just fine and so will you with a Teamster contract . Fact is they are on an ego trip and they want you to know they are the boss / alpha dog .
Not everyone is like you...Great post BTW...some are intimidated and won't post because they are largely out numbered by the pro'sI respectfully disagree Runawaytrain. For the union movement to get to this point , there has to be some substance to the issues that are mentioned constantly.
I don't think you would have drivers considering a union , a vote , or any kind of organizing whatsoever if there was respect for the drivers intelligence. Most drivers at Con-way started here long enough ago to have a well informed opinion on the direction of the company.
I am pro Con-way.
I am also pro driver.
It seems as though pro Con-way has changed over the years and no longer means pro driver - these 2 ideas conflict with one another now and they didn't in the past.
I am not pro union but I do not have a problem with a union at this point ( thanks to the new Con-way culture ) I am not afraid to post my thoughts one way or another. I don't think it's a big deal that people post on a board and try to get you to agree with them - research , find the truth , make up your own mind.
Heck , I could get on here and tell you the union has failed in Tennessee at the VW plant BUT , that is not the whole truth - Despite roadblocks, UAW finds a new path in the South
Look for the facts - take the time to listen and read. Don't be an idiot.
To process the freight the way we do I'd never expect a contract with those rules.. They would bargain hard for their work expectations which is fine... Compensate accordinglyEvery manager has a little union book they must pull out and follow exact procedures on how to deal with specific union activities - from conversations in the workplace to reps showing up at your door. Then we must alert HR/Legal with a union log...giving specifics to the activity.
Plus it is part of the Con-way culture that is embedded into you from day 1 to believe if a contract is voted in, the company cannot operate with restrictive work rules from the NMFA and would eventually close its doors...you even get to see a video of such an example.
Maybe because they are organizing, with all the terminals filing for representation you may be a minority on thid issue....Another outsider ... This forum is dominated my outsiders....I'm just one .... This forum is a platform and launching pad for the union...
How is that someone who is pro unions fault that they have no debating skills, seems to me they want to take their ball & go home if they hear something they don't like....T Not everyone is like you...Great post BTW...some are intimidated and won't post because they are largely out numbered by the pro's
I respectfully disagree Runawaytrain. For the union movement to get to this point , there has to be some substance to the issues that are mentioned constantly.
I don't think you would have drivers considering a union , a vote , or any kind of organizing whatsoever if there was respect for the drivers intelligence. Most drivers at Con-way started here long enough ago to have a well informed opinion on the direction of the company.
I am pro Con-way.
I am also pro driver.
It seems as though pro Con-way has changed over the years and no longer means pro driver - these 2 ideas conflict with one another now and they didn't in the past.
I am not pro union but I do not have a problem with a union at this point ( thanks to the new Con-way culture ) I am not afraid to post my thoughts one way or another. I don't think it's a big deal that people post on a board and try to get you to agree with them - research , find the truth , make up your own mind.
Heck , I could get on here and tell you the union has failed in Tennessee at the VW plant BUT , that is not the whole truth - Despite roadblocks, UAW finds a new path in the South
Look for the facts - take the time to listen and read. Don't be an idiot.