Minimum wage debate

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Toby, Dec 3, 2013.

  1. Dick Dastardly

    Dick Dastardly Drat, Double Drat, and Triple Drat!

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    "When I feed the poor, they call me a saint, but when I ask why the poor are hungry, they call me a Communist." Dom Helder Camara.
     
  2. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

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    Feeling entitled to others people's wealth is what's greedy. Marxism is true greed.
     
  3. Toby

    Toby Well-Known Member

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    The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.


    Winston Churchill
     
  4. Toby

    Toby Well-Known Member

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    History has shown that a government's redistribution of shrinking wealth, in preference to a private sector's creation of new sources of it, can prove more destructive than even the most deadly enemy.
    Victor Davis Hanson
     
  5. Toby

    Toby Well-Known Member

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    Quoting Marx with that one...As a socialist what happens when you run out of other people's money besides failure?
     
  6. Toby

    Toby Well-Known Member

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    Stoney don't forget control. History has shown that Marxist country's had to be totalitarian by nature and they still failed
     
  7. Toby

    Toby Well-Known Member

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    Should the government determine and dictate wage scales be it minimum or maximum?
     
  8. Bubba74

    Bubba74 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly,

    They want to aquire a lifestyle that they did nothing to earn.
    Instead of improving themselves, improving their skill set and making themselves more valuable in the workplace, they just want the money. What they fail to realize is that their bumb in pay will be negated by all the costs that will rise in the marketplace.
    Furthermore, what does that do for the guy that started at minimum wage and worked their way up to $15 + an hour., then comes alongs this schmuck who cannot even work the register and they are now making the same. HTF is that fair?


    I hear certain eliments on the left calling for maximum wages which I am pretty sure (like BarryCare) would only apply to others.
     
  9. Toby

    Toby Well-Known Member

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    That would be the participation trophy Bubba
     
  10. Toby

    Toby Well-Known Member

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    Bubba after that then since government knows best they can determine what a person can do for a living as well, not a far fetched step for them to take but an evolutionary step in their control of people. Lets see kids are tested in school , ranked and assigned an occupation..
     
  11. Dick Dastardly

    Dick Dastardly Drat, Double Drat, and Triple Drat!

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    This is fun. I'm glad I dared venture into this forum.
     
  12. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash OBAMA'S CREATION.

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    You're actually right. The good news is that throughout my lifetime, whenever my opinion of my worth and the bosses opinion of my worth didn't match up, I always had the opportunity to move on to greener pastures. And because of having good work ethic, it's always worked out to my advantage.

    So I'd like to thank all of those bosses who didn't agree with me and my value to their operation.......they've allowed me to get where I am today.
    Kudos to them.:1036316054:
     
  13. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash OBAMA'S CREATION.

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    And those same buffoons put french fries in my bag when I ordered onion rings.
     
  14. autocar65

    autocar65 Local 767

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    So let me ask you a question since you seem to be pretty confident in your understanding of wealth. What happens when you set fire to a dollar bill?
     
  15. CCXdriver

    CCXdriver Well-Known Member

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    Well, you get what you pay for.

    In reality, if fast food jobs payed $15 per hour, a lot of those currently in the industry would be pushed out and replaced with ones that would get your order right.

    Of course, you would pay more for your onion rings, but at least you would get them.
     
  16. CCXdriver

    CCXdriver Well-Known Member

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    It burns???
     
  17. dcmilkwagon

    dcmilkwagon Armed, not a victim

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    No, that should NOT be the motto of our society. That is straight from Karl Marx, the ONLY form of government where people are free to move from the lower classes to the higher ones, is capitalism. NO other form of government allows this to happen, you just have to WANT to better yourself and your income MORE than sitting on your ass waiting for some one else to hand it to you.
     
  18. Bubba74

    Bubba74 Well-Known Member

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    yes those workers will be pushed out
    and replaced with machines

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    i get to deal with that everyday
     
  19. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash OBAMA'S CREATION.

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    If a fast food worker makes 15 bucks an hour, and the adults take their jobs from them because of the higher wage, where will the college kids work?

    And why stop at 15 bucks an hour? How about 20 or maybe even 25 an hour? Is that a good enough "living wage" for some unskilled workers? Dang, that would put an extra value meal at about $25.00. (if you add cheese to your burger) I'm thinking that you guys and your "feel good" legislation may just put Micky D's out of business since none of us could afford to stop there.
     
  20. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash OBAMA'S CREATION.

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    It would be a lot funner yet for you, if you wouldn't show up to a "battle of wits" being unarmed. lol

    Enjoy it.......we're educating you free of charge.
     

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