#Never Trump!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jimmy g, Feb 29, 2016.

  1. kboomarang

    kboomarang My allah, between pie and mode AD-FREE USER

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    I don't find that quote so offensive, it's 1000 times less offensive than Bern-nuts "rape fantasy quote", but hey I'm no socialist, and that offensive quote has been on the books for centuries in one form or another long before the Donald or El Dulce, "Say how's it going supporting Bernie?".........."not Baaaaaaaaaa--d"
     
  2. Rastus

    Rastus ..MAGA.. AD-FREE USER

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    I think it already has.
    Republicans were givin the house and the senate to stop obamacare for one and they pretty much stabbed their constituents in the back.
     
  3. Rastus

    Rastus ..MAGA.. AD-FREE USER

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    Not offensive at all. But I could understand how democrats who worship the government would think so.
     
  4. Keepingon

    Keepingon Well-Known Member

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    I think these do nothing hacks on both sides are terrified that this guy gets in and starts telling the American people
    what useless :crap: We have as Senators and Congressmen.
     
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  5. ABFer

    ABFer Well-Known Member

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    The Whigouts and the Torries?
     
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  6. falconfan

    falconfan Well-Known Member

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    Jimmy, you forgot more about politics than I will ever know so I ask you in what areas do you see him expanding in besides militarily ?
    I see the IRS shrinking with a 3 page tax code instead of a 3,000 pages.

    I just wish some leader will give the states more rights, especially with social issues
    like gay marriage and abortion.Let the Feds worry about us militarily and fiscally.
     
  7. Keepingon

    Keepingon Well-Known Member

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  8. Getoverit

    Getoverit GONE, but not forgotten.....................

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    And he is even more clueless on foreign policy!!!
     
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  9. Rastus

    Rastus ..MAGA.. AD-FREE USER

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    The latest is The Donald had business dealings with N.Y. mob boss Tony Salerno.
    :bowdown:Trump's street cred just went through the roof with me. :bowdown:
     
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  10. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    You guys shouldn't have to put up with that :shit:.
    They treat you like morons
    Form your own party and theirs will die on the vine.
    They need you, you don't need them brother:clap::usa2:
     
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  11. a9faninnc

    a9faninnc Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Dust off them work boots,lol...
     
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  12. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    I'm thinking if Rumps wins the nomination and they can't find away to get rid of him.
    they have another out and that's to put up a 3rd party candidate that's all establishment Republican.
    That would split the vote between Rumps and the other guy. They both lose to Hillary of course but they keep Rumps from the White House. Bloomberg already mentioned doing so, if he can get the establishment Republicans behind him I think he would.
    It's like a sacrifice run in baseball in this case for the good of the country
     
  13. SuperCourse

    SuperCourse Well-Known Member

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    Magoo is a flip flop kinda guy, he don't care who his toe fungus offends.
     
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  14. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook AD-FREE USER

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    Not voting is also a vote. We vote our conscience. Mine is clear. I won't vote for a Marxist, or a Democrat pretending to be a Republican. I see both as evil, and destroying our nation, and not worthy of voting for.
     
  15. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook AD-FREE USER

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    Repubs aren't split two ways, Mags. They have Conservative, they have Establishment, they have Tea Party, and now they have Trump, running third party (Perot's Reform Party) Inside the Repub Party. It's way more complicated than just conservative vs establishment. Trump is more Dem than Repub, but in the end- all litigous Trump...

    And Bloomberg is a Democrat. He won't effect Repubs...
     
  16. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    I think he would take the traditional Republican vote and give it a home. Real Republicans don't want to cast their vote for Rumps.
    Give them a place to go and they would imo.
    Remember Bloomberg is an all business type very wealthy big on the business front. I think they could accept him real fast.
     
  17. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook AD-FREE USER

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    First, I'm no expert. But anyway- none of what he's running on will get passed. Schumer (who Trump donated to) will Filibuster all the spending and tax reform. What happens then? repubs have no stomach to shut down government, remember? What will Trump do when Congress can't pass his wishes? (we'll see Obama Jr pick up his own pen and use Exec Orders to have Bureacracy do it- same as Obama).

    Plus his SCOTUS appointments could change the course of History. He already lauded his Sister to be a fine justice. She's big-time Lib. One case now Before the Court is executive power. That needs reigned in, not expanded.

    He's backed Planned Parenthood. I can see him pushing for more spending.

    He's for expanding Border Security That Should be a Great thing. What if he pulls a Geo Bush and creates another Homeland Security thing, where THEY make their own rules, and not Congress? He's already wanting to pressure Apple to make a backdoor into every phone. Why? Get a warrant. A Very Specific warrant.

    There are others. Mostly I just don't trust candidates who send lawyers out as their spokesmen (His are Cory Ludinowsky and Michael whatever his name is- his personal pitbull lawyer), threatening to sue over every campaign ad. He's a fraud. Can't debate, so he threatens suits... Scumbag!
     
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  18. falconfan

    falconfan Well-Known Member

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    I totally respect and understand your convictions.In this case it's like voting for the devil
    or the heathen.I kinda think we should vote for whatever will keep our children the safest.
     
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  19. falconfan

    falconfan Well-Known Member

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    Things may change, I see the heat dialing up on Trump.Now that Rubio can hurl insults
    just as personal and vicious and stay alive I believe the media and the supporters of the other candidates are going to jump in.The pummeling could be so relentless that he dies by his own sword....Would you vote for Cruz or Rubio?
     
  20. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook AD-FREE USER

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    I always did until Bush's 2nd term, McCain, Romney, and now probably Trump.

    My Faith tells me that eventually we come to a point where there are only evil choices left, and that Man can't win, except by withdrawing to Christ. I REALLY hope we aren't there yet. Hey, I'm a kook! But one part of my kook theory is that of a world war, started in the Euphrates, that spreads to kill 1/3 of Man, and afterward, the Reformed power seems to shift to Europe, and the Eagle simply doesn't seem to matter. Again, I'm a kook, but I can't vote to continue things like they are.

    My push is for smaller, more principled government. Only way seems to be a Convention of the States, proposing term limits and balanced budgets and such. Probably too late.

    Either way, I put my Faith in God, not Trump or Hillary. I actually like many of the things Trump's website says he's for. I just see too many worshipping him as their Savior, and he's not into saving. He's into Trump, period. Anyone who says he's Christian, but hasn't needed to confess anything, is a self-important liar!
     

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