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Maybe the guy just does his job and does not b*tch about it when he is doing it. Give him a break.
I don't think that anyone is b*tching. Like I said in the 1st post I think that these pool tables are an accident or lawsuit waiting to happen.Friend of the frog said:Maybe the guy just does his job and does not b*tch about it when he is doing it. Give him a break.
Friend of the frog said:I understand your point. No one should subject them selves to injury. But there may be some young strapping guys who can handle this with no problem. In the guys post he does say that the freight weight only 140 lbs more than he does.
Obviously he is a big string guy and, to him, its no problem.
Do we have to question the guy or slam him like the other poster, because the guy is big and strong ??
As far as the freight goes, someone has to move it and someone is going to get paid to move it. I call it "Job Security".
3 or 4 weeks ago I had the 1st pooltable in our terminal on my peddle run loaded on a 48ft. van. I told ops that I couldn't deliver it & 2 other drivers helped me drag it off onto ABF's dock. At 6pm that night I was told to meet another driver who had a liftgate and make the delivery.It was laying flat on a pallet but wouldn't fit on the liftgate laying flat. We had a very hard time making this delivery. The next morning I advised the ops mgr with my shop steward present that it was an unsafe delivery & that I could not & would not attempt one again.Friend of the frog said:You can get hurt tying your shoe. If you feel you cannot move the freight you tell your supervisor. If he has a problem, you go up the ladder.
Everybody has different thresholds, why condemn someone who can do the job. If you cannot that's fine. Nobody is saying that one should go and get hurt for any job.
As far as the job security comment. ABF has made a fortunr handling and pricing freight noone else can handle. Once that is gone so is the job.
In recapping, if you can move it great, if you can't don't, you need to ask for help.
Just don't playa hate the guy who can move it. One day he will be old and feeble and not be able to move it either.
Peace out Bro
I'll bet ya they will not do it for that price again if they do.:22: I am a linehaul driver but I have only been at ABF for 7 years. I know how to take care of me. Delivered mirrors for 28 years and they ain't exactly light.:whistling:2631 said:Freight rates are not my business, but I would bet that when ABF finishes these 3000 deliveries we will find out that they lost money on this account.
I tend to agree if the freightis priced properly, you make it happen. Not everything can be dock to dock on nice, square 40x48 pallets.2631 said:3 or 4 weeks ago I had the 1st pooltable in our terminal on my peddle run loaded on a 48ft. van. I told ops that I couldn't deliver it & 2 other drivers helped me drag it off onto ABF's dock. At 6pm that night I was told to meet another driver who had a liftgate and make the delivery.It was laying flat on a pallet but wouldn't fit on the liftgate laying flat. We had a very hard time making this delivery. The next morning I advised the ops mgr with my shop steward present that it was an unsafe delivery & that I could not & would not attempt one again.
He agreed with me & I nor any of the older guys have had a pooltable since. He told us that the delivery proceedure was for the table to be laid flat at the tail on a piece of plywood. And 2 ABF men were to wiggle it over the edge & slide it to the ground. From there we were only responsible to ge it up onto the driveway.
The instructions on the bill state that the customer is to open & inspect table before signing the Delivery receipt.
Back on the old truckingboards there was a Red Star salesman who said something like-- There is no such thing as bad freight - just poorly priced freight.... or something like that.
Well I was told that the freight charges from California to N.J. for each table was approx $175. this includes residential, notification & 2nd man. Liftgates are not authorized or paid for by shipper.
Freight rates are not my business, but I would bet that when ABF finishes these 3000 deliveries we will find out that they lost money on this account.
forget about the pricingFriend of the frog said:I tend to agree if the freightis priced properly, you make it happen. Not everything can be dock to dock on nice, square 40x48 pallets.
That being said $175.00 from Ca - NY with res and LG sure is not priced right.
That being said ABF is a smart company and does things for a reason. I agree with my friend and think that they will not be moving those pool tables for long at those rates.
That sales rep sounds like a smart guy. I'll bet he is real handsome too....:wacko:
It is the companys responsibility to provide the driver with the proper equipment to unload his truck.Saddletramp69 said:Its the drivers responsibility to unload his truck. Period. It doesnt matter if you drive ltl, truckload, or haulmud in the oilfield.
big steve said:forget about the pricing
that does not matter to me as even if abf got $500 per pool table does not make it any safer
point is if you have guys being heroes and doin it solo then abf will expect everyone else to do same
since when does supervision take your safety into consideration
the rocket scientists who supervise loading placed the delivery for 2631 to do on a 48ft van to a residential stop
remember "aim high in steering" sound familiar
they only care about getting the freight off the dock not how the hell it gets off your truck
in addition i am not old and feeble as you inferred , 51 5'10 255
i can handle a lot of things but choose to work smart and use my brain instead of just my braun
i feel sorry for hillbilly frog if he has more friends like you
you are lucky to be in linehaul:shutup2:
Friend of the frog said:Can I clear up a few things ? First I never inferred that you were old and feeble.
With a user ID like BIG STEVE, I assumed you had some meat on your bones.
Next I am not a line haul driver.
Last, I do not want to see anyone get hurt.
However, to say that someone is trying to be a hero because they are performing their job is ridiculous. Saying that because one person can do a job a certain way, makes the company think that every one can do the job the same way, is just as dumb.
We all have blowhard supervisors. Luckily at ABF we have a union to protect us from these morons.
That being said if there is a job that I can do, that someone else cannot and that job is in my description, I am going to do it. One day the time will come when I can no longer do it and that day I will step back and say that I cannot do it. Get me help or find someone else.
But for me to not perform a duty because one of my brothers cannot do it is silly. Gor crying out loud we have guys in my barn who cannot even tie there shoes.
Should I start wearing loafers ??
Saddletramp69 said:Its the drivers responsibility to unload his truck. Period. It doesnt matter if you drive ltl, truckload, or haulmud in the oilfield.
big steve said:you're statement shouldn't be dignified with an intelligent response:wacko:
uh sorry to burst your bubble but yeah the customer always comes first. And always will.Its not always the customer comes first.