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[Animo916]

The policy rule book states that nothing is binding in this book and can be changed at any time managment see's fit. Its like a contract. They can do anything at any time they want for any reason regardless of bids and seniority. How does it feel to be a puppet?

How is changing it anytime they want like a contract? If my company wants to change something, like a change of operations or a work rule, it has to go through a hearing process to determine if the changes are in contradiction of the language in the contract. No contract means no guarantees, anything can be changed at anytime for any purpose.

 

[mossbackman]

I got an idea, That vision that "O" and UPSF talks about. Give it to us NOW and show us that they want our non-union support!!!!

You Have to remember that we now work for a corporation and their only real vision is big fat returns for the stockholders and CEO's AT ALL COSTS

 

[Valerie]

I am not sure how the situations were handled at other terminals, but at Memphis, it wasn't a pretty site.

I think it should have been handled differently by both sides.

 

[steve5]

Well, I can understand them wanting to stay nonunion. However, Their actions speak volumes just the opposite. They should start giving time in a half after 8 or at least 40. Pay all line drivers for all delay and break downs at full pay not half.

This was all Overnite's way of doing it. So if all this continues then the teamsters will have my support. I know some of my fellow workers won't like me saying this. But fair is fair and right is right.

This is wrong of UPS to keep the same tactics and pay structure as Overnite. Like I've said I'm still giving them a little time. But I will be behind what's best for me and my family.

Also so what I feel is right and fair.

I definitely agree, an open mind deserves respect.

 

[mud-flap]

I'll send you mine as soon as i get it.

 

[mud-flap]

I am not sure how the situations were handled at other terminals, but at Memphis, it wasn't a pretty site.

I think it should have been handled differently by both sides.

I have been to the terminal in MEM,, went to Beal st. Sun records and Graceland ,,, worked the dock for a cpl. of weeks. during the teamster work action.

 

[accelerator]

The video makes a lot of sense to me. It showed the teamster union's true colors. I believe everyone needs to see this again.

Actually this DVD does not show the union's true colors, Infact it shows criminals in action, A person being shot was shot by the person who shot him not the teamsters, The rock going through the truck window, was propelled by a criminal, the fights the name calling was all prompts by those whom have more than the teamster spirit in mind!!!!! This type of criminal action is and was proposed by someone who has a agenda of his or her own that is above and beyond the teamsters.

When h**** or anyone else for that matter tells someone of feeble mind to shoot or harm someone and that person does , and knows it's illegal to begin with weather inspired by someone or not is weak in character and frankly ignorent.I would not kill or mame some one for H**** and I know alot of teamsters that feel the same as I.

To say this is the teamsters is ignorance at it's best, for not all teamsters did the same thing.

My new jobclass is "Freight Redundancy Specialist".

This Person will have the ability
to tolerate mentally challenged dispatchers
who excell in the art of ignorance redundancy,
and can withstand driving 18 wheelers at
top end speeds in circles.

 

[accelerator]

The policy rule book states that nothing is binding in this book and can be changed at any time managment see's fit. Its like a contract. They can do anything at any time they want for any reason regardless of bids and seniority. How does it feel to be a puppet?

Yes in the new book not in the old one.....

My new jobclass is "Freight Redundancy Specialist".

This Person will have the ability
to tolerate mentally challenged dispatchers
who excell in the art of ignorance redundancy,
and can withstand driving 18 wheelers at
top end speeds in circles.

 

[accelerator]

This is exactly the kind of responce that I expected.
At my barn there was not even ONE man from Overnite on your pathetic line. They were 100% teamsters.I am amazed at the SCAB calling when we weren't on strike and we weren't replacement workers. and that was just the beginning.
1. Employees personal cars were keyed as they came in the gate. verbally abused as they walk from there cars coming and going.
2. Mirrors were ripped off the trucks as they attempted to leave on there routes.
3. We were followed every single day to every stop and intimidated verbally.
4. They tried to intimidate each customer to try and get them to stop using Overnite.
5. They drilled hole in the equipment that was dropped at unsecured customer docks
6. One of our drivers got a brick thrown through his windshield.
7. One of our drivers got his windshield shot out.
8. Air lines were cut and or pulled off as we went through the gate.

Yeah that sounds like a pizza party to me. We had your so called pizza party every single day. I hope you had a good time. I wont be forgetting your partys anytime soon....

Again I say AGAIN,. Let Leo make up your mind for you . By watching this video Go**** M has stereotyped every teamster on the planet as a criminal, and with all due respect, if you went teamsters tomorrow can you honestly say that if you were honest joe blo on the street prior to this change ,that after, you would infact be instantly changed to charles manson overnite?

Give me a break silverhawk these people who confronted you are nothing more than feeble minded criminals, and should be prosecuted as such , (onite had no problems doing this).and anyone in conjunction, after all these people have minds of thier own.

My new jobclass is "Freight Redundancy Specialist".

This Person will have the ability
to tolerate mentally challenged dispatchers
who excell in the art of ignorance redundancy,
and can withstand driving 18 wheelers at
top end speeds in circles.

 

[imported_Silverhawk1]

Again I say AGAIN,. Let Leo make up your mind for you . By watching this video Go**** M has stereotyped every teamster on the planet as a criminal, and with all due respect, if you went teamsters tomorrow can you honestly say that if you were honest joe blo on the street prior to this change ,that after, you would infact be instantly changed to charles manson overnite?

Give me a break silverhawk these people who confronted you are nothing more than feeble minded criminals, and should be prosecuted as such , (onite had no problems doing this).and anyone in conjunction, after all these people have minds of thier own.

My new jobclass is "Freight Redundancy Specialist".

This Person will have the ability
to tolerate mentally challenged dispatchers
who excell in the art of ignorance redundancy,
and can withstand driving 18 wheelers at
top end speeds in circles.

Get off the LEO crap! I don't need him to make decisions fro me... not now or ever. and as for stereotyping the teamsters go. I realize that "ALL" teamsters didn't do this stuff. But it is really hard to pick out Johnny, Jimmie, Jack and Jeffery when they are all in a huge pack waving there signs and spewing vulgarities and throwing crap at you.

I have openly said that if there was a "Company wide" vote that determined that we the employees of UPGF would become teamster represented. I would respect that decision. But until that time I expect the same respect on my decision to remain non-union. There are some here that continue to spew crap at me and others here saying stuff like "We are one of Leo's puppets" "Stupid" "Cry baby" and the list goes on and on. It is almost like there is a huge pack of teamsters here in this forum too. doing the same stuff...

 

[BusterNite]

How is changing it anytime they want like a contract? If my company wants to change something, like a change of operations or a work rule, it has to go through a hearing process to determine if the changes are in contradiction of the language in the contract. No contract means no guarantees, anything can be changed at anytime for any purpose.

You missed the point.

 

[wheeholder]

DVD what a waste of $$$. Benefit meeting in Apr waste of $$$

 

[just-me]

DVD what a waste of $$$. Benefit meeting in Apr waste of $$$

I agree they just want to BLOW money if they really cared about us which they don't ,,they COULD spend that money on overtime after 8 and pay our bennies .but NOOOOO that makes sense ,and they don't do things that make sense..thats what got them in trouble with the teamsters in the first place.

 

[theoriginalwebidiot]

it's ok for upsfreight (overnite-motor cargo) to belong to trade unions like the california trucking assoc and the american trucking association and have lobbyist represent them, and pay dues every month to these organizations but they don't want you to be represented....

 

[accelerator]

The policy rule book states that nothing is binding in this book and can be changed at any time managment see's fit. Its like a contract. They can do anything at any time they want for any reason regardless of bids and seniority. How does it feel to be a puppet?

All I have to say is this. From the time I started employment with O and have seen this with Union P as the mother company, We were treated well.

The employees had a voice to some degree, ( mgnt. did not accept beligerancy) in my terminal anyway, and when you had a problem a simple trip up the chain of command was very simple for a driver and usually had some positive effects.

Now it seems to me that mgnt. has the control locally to take or keep your job.

I do not know about other states of caorse but in NH an employer does not need and excuse to fire someone.

With that being said and seeing some of the mgnt. that O had in place half, if not all, of these mgnt. teams lack not only interpersonal skills , but the ability to find thier way home without a map @ night. Our MGNT. being native''s for a couple of years running now. I would think curiosity on thier parts would have killed the cat and they would have taken the time to atleast go out for a drive, and take a look at what we are doing ,but this was'nt the case.

Our mgnt. after 20 years in supervision does not know how to pull up the company rule books on the mainframe. I know how to do it and I am a truck driver!!!

This is disgusting the communication sucks, they make rash judgements most of the time, when drivers try to make scence of the runs in the morning we are told (subliminally)we do not know what we are talking about, or we are ignored.

Point in case, and any body in the state of MASS. can verify this. I have seen times, usually when leaf peeping starts in the state of NH, a section of I 93 from 495 to 111 in NH, Probably 7 miles of highway, can be backed up bumper to bumper traffic, and could take a driver about 1 hr. to go through this. this is the most direct route from Lawrence mass. to MHT NH terminal. Probably a 30 minute ride in most cases, 20 mls. total.

Now my dispatcher being geographically ignorent was coming down on the driver, of this area, saying he was F*****G him personally( our dispatcher that is) by taking so long to get back to the terminal. When I tried to explain to him that this is usually the case in that area and all back roads are usually backed up with all looking for a quicker way home. He laughed at me and told me I did not know what I was talking about, Now I am a veteran of that run for seven years. The new driver is learning the area , and also does,nt know if you are not done in this area around 3pm the latest, this in most cases is the end result.

Now why do I want this supervisor making judgements like this on my behalf. I would rather not. not without any protection. this driver was repremanded for his actions, an alternative way in this case would have probably taken longer to get back.

My new jobclass is "Freight Redundancy Specialist".

This Person will have the ability
to tolerate mentally challenged dispatchers
who excell in the art of ignorance redundancy,
and can withstand driving 18 wheelers at
top end speeds in circles.

 

[accelerator]

Get off the LEO crap! I don't need him to make decisions fro me... not now or ever. and as for stereotyping the teamsters go. I realize that "ALL" teamsters didn't do this stuff. But it is really hard to pick out Johnny, Jimmie, Jack and Jeffery when they are all in a huge pack waving there signs and spewing vulgarities and throwing crap at you.

I have openly said that if there was a "Company wide" vote that determined that we the employees of UPGF would become teamster represented. I would respect that decision. But until that time I expect the same respect on my decision to remain non-union. There are some here that continue to spew crap at me and others here saying stuff like "We are one of Leo's puppets" "Stupid" "Cry baby" and the list goes on and on. It is almost like there is a huge pack of teamsters here in this forum too. doing the same stuff...

First of all I am sorry if I offended you , I guess I deserve it, I was a little harsh, But i know and I am not saying you do not by any means know, that the teamsters of the past were being labled as criminals, by mostly white collar workers,mainly because they were, it took violance to make a point then ,but this is of a different era.
when children had to work, and put in dangerous positions, not aloud to school, because they had to work, people being harassed, beaten, yelled at, women *****, by supervisors who also had another agenda in mind, other than the companies agenda, and in some cases was the companies agenda for allowing this to happen.

White collar workers do not care about us . It is thier job to maintain a healthier bottom line, And some of what I pointed out still exists today, Even though there is laws put into place now in comparison too 60 years ago some of these actions still exist today.And is not very practical to take up a lawyer and sue, because if you do get your job back ( or win you case)the aftermath will be putting you in a position to make you quit,

I do not know you from a hole in the wall except for this website but I personally do not think you deserve this.

My new jobclass is "Freight Redundancy Specialist".

This Person will have the ability
to tolerate mentally challenged dispatchers
who excell in the art of ignorance redundancy,
and can withstand driving 18 wheelers at
top end speeds in circles.

 

[Animo916]

You missed the point.

How did I miss the point?

You said

Originally Posted by BusterNite
Its like a contract.

I asked how is changing things anytime they want like a contract?

 

[accelerator]

Get off the LEO crap! I don't need him to make decisions fro me... not now or ever. and as for stereotyping the teamsters go. I realize that "ALL" teamsters didn't do this stuff. But it is really hard to pick out Johnny, Jimmie, Jack and Jeffery when they are all in a huge pack waving there signs and spewing vulgarities and throwing crap at you.

I have openly said that if there was a "Company wide" vote that determined that we the employees of UPGF would become teamster represented. I would respect that decision. But until that time I expect the same respect on my decision to remain non-union. There are some here that continue to spew crap at me and others here saying stuff like "We are one of Leo's puppets" "Stupid" "Cry baby" and the list goes on and on. It is almost like there is a huge pack of teamsters here in this forum too. doing the same stuff...

I also say this ,we had a few here in mch that we had problems with, and you are right when you say it is hard to pick out billy, from george, from leo, I will not argue this point . and I am not saying that all of these people were right in thier actions. and I am most certainy not saying the teamster reps. could not have put a stop to this , just as well as O could not have put a stop to this as well. an immediate stop to these actions.

But it does not eliviate the fact that O put themselves in this position by having a vision and leading people on with acts of non professionalism in the workplace and allowing this to happen because of the bottom dollar.

And teamster mgnt. is wrong for putting themselves in a position that allowed them to be stereotyped. Any company would build itself on pride and wants to have continued existanse here in the states would not allow this to happen. Major corperations or managed entaties like the teamsters. There is alot of bad on bith sides.

And for M******E to say we have to prove ourselves to ups is nothing but smoke and mirrors, and is just as fictitious as our vision. the first thing l** said after our purchase was this is a step further in our vision and I ask how is this so? I think we have proven ourselves and continue to do so everyday.UPS will make us successful and will trample anybody who steps in thier way, anybody. after 1.25 billion if we do not make it, its hard for me to believe they will punish us by shutting us down!!!!

If this was thier intention they would not have bought us to begin with. your reasons for not wanting the union is justified if these actions were taken at your terminal, but allowing this to continue is fault of the local, and should be prosecuted as such...

If we do become teamsters then your opinion counts for whom is voted in a superiors in your local, if this is the type of behavior your local suffers from then it is up to you and your local bros. to put a stop to it. If infact you do believe in what the teamsters is.

My new jobclass is "Freight Redundancy Specialist".

This Person will have the ability
to tolerate mentally challenged dispatchers
who excell in the art of ignorance redundancy,
and can withstand driving 18 wheelers at
top end speeds in circles.

 

[Apostolic]

I got my movie,and Gordon is really looking old .
You would have thought all the highier ups in management would have took their big stock buy outs,and whatever other fortunes they've made at Overnite with the UPS take over,and been relaxing enjoying the good life?

They must be really dedicated to stay on to help UPS package to become the best over all trucking company in the world.

I guess Leo wants to stick around to see his mission statement come to pass?

Maybe just my opinion but most truck drivers I know have long retired way younger than our head guys.

May the Lord direct your path it works for me.

 

[Apostolic]

Being an old freight haulers you learn the tricks.

For many years i've brought a small camara with me in my lunch box.
We had a big rain storm,one of our customers docks was water running in their dock door.
I couldn't get in with out a row boat.
I called in but my dispatcher,than the TM just couldn't understand?
Well i didn't say another word just came to the terminal whipped out my little camara and showed them the photos.
Their responce (WOW!!!!!!!!!)
How true a picture speaks a thousand words.
Also works very well with traffic jams.

I've also used it for questionable accidents.
Also claim exceptions.
My, my nothing like the didgital age we live in.

May the Lord direct your path it works for me.