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Discussion in 'ABF Freight System' started by 12pack, Dec 30, 2017.

  1. canaryinthemine

    canaryinthemine Retirement....The Job I Was Born To Have!

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    Was he out of Chicago, too?
     
  2. Trucker 206

    Trucker 206 Well-Known Member

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    No. Syndicated late-night broadcast from NYC on the now-defunct RKO Network. If I remember correctly, the studio was in Midtown Manhattan at 1440 Broadway. I’m guessing a Chicago station probably had the broadcast on though.
     
  3. canaryinthemine

    canaryinthemine Retirement....The Job I Was Born To Have!

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    Nighttime AM was the best,....pre-satellite days. Midnight on, you could get good reception right about to 5:00 . Kept me awake many nights.....
     
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  4. seabreeze

    seabreeze Not Well Known Member, 60 Year Teamster Member

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    I remember Art Bell, don't recall Dearborn
    Two of us left at midnight, we had WWL N.O. till about 5AM . just like you say, then it was CB time.
    My AM was about good as a Pill, for staying awake.
     
  5. gravytrain1

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    The freightliners are the ones that lock the brakes when it beeps at a over head sign . Every time any of us drive one of these units that lock the brakes on the road by the computer write the number down .. If someone has a wreck, they (ABF) should have to dig deep out of there pockets. I was on wet roads last week and truck done a nose dive braking . A wild ride for a few seconds.. Freightliners only.. No problem with the macks. I guess ABF trust this junk more than a seasoned driver with 25 years experience on the road.. I hope no one gets hurt on this junk ABF is putting in there trucks.
     
  6. canaryinthemine

    canaryinthemine Retirement....The Job I Was Born To Have!

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    Be careful, Brother. We all know how the corporate people trust technology more than loyal employees. Sooner or later, most drivers will have their own Go-Pro cameras,...just so their estate can have the evidence that the technology failed in the real world.

    I don't want to wish that on anyone,.....but,.....

    Go look at my post on "cab-under" tractors. Google it,....and then sit back in amazement at the corporate stupidity that thought this was a...."good idea"...
     
  7. DCM_Doc

    DCM_Doc Well-Known Member

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    Years ago a higher echelon management person said there is a difference between being on the leading edge of technology & being on the bleeding edge. I think the problematic Freightliner system can be considered to be the later.
    I remember several company investments that were costly & did little to improve safety or efficiency.
     
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  8. DCM_Doc

    DCM_Doc Well-Known Member

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    The Freightliner system I referred to as the latter is the Detroit Assurance system while Mack uses the Bendix system. Historically Detroit has been on top of new technology & innovations.
     
  9. canaryinthemine

    canaryinthemine Retirement....The Job I Was Born To Have!

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    But,.....do they test in the Real World?

    (....Or is that what they're doing now?...)...
     
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  10. DCM_Doc

    DCM_Doc Well-Known Member

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    Real world conditions are much different from laboratory conditions. The ill fated 121 brake systems are just one example of that. Trucks operate under adverse conditions that test the quality of products. I don't know if Detroit evaluated their system thoroughly. I do know there is no room for error with truck braking systems. There is no second chance in emergency stops with trucks. I am sure manufacturers know they are liable for faulty products that can cause accidents. Of course if there is an accident the trucking company is also liable if it had knowledge there was a problem with a particular model truck & continued to operate those trucks. Word spreads quickly among fleet maintenance men of defective products & a safety problem will stop others from placing orders of that product. I am sure there is an urgency within Detroit headquarters to solve this problem.
    ABF has been willingly used as a guinea pig in the past to evaluate new products.
     
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  11. vongrimmenstein

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    Certain stations had a 50,000 watt power broadcast license. A few I can remember. WOWO out of Fort Wayne, IN, KSL Salt Lake City, WLW The Queen, Oh, KOMO Seattle, WA WGN Chicago WHO Des Moines IA, WSM Nashville, TN, WABC NY NY, WBBM Chicago & Many more. von.
     
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  12. canaryinthemine

    canaryinthemine Retirement....The Job I Was Born To Have!

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    As long as there is a driver in the truck..........companies have a “liability “ out. No matter what the technology does,......it will be the driver’s response to any failure that determines the outcome of any lawsuit.

    Even in cases of extreme technology failure,.......where it’s provable that the technology caused the accident,.......the liability will get.....”spread around”......as long as there is a sueable entity in the cab......the driver......
     
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  13. vongrimmenstein

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    Kind of like an attorney saying in front of a Jury. He ran over a piece of metal in the roadway & failed to swerve or stop in time to prevent the blowout which caused the roll over which killed the family of 5. And the Jury gives them 10 million because I didn't swerve? Oh, & the accident happened @ midnight making visibility hard to see the metal in the roadway. And the Appeals court affirms the 10 million dollar judgement. von.
     
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  14. canaryinthemine

    canaryinthemine Retirement....The Job I Was Born To Have!

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    Pretty much........" The technology failed/reacted improperly to the conditions,....and I didn't react in time, Your Honor......"

    " That would be your opinion, Mr. Truckdriver,.......Since technology is infallible, we rule that it was your reaction alone that caused the accident.."
     
  15. Aladdin Sane

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    And fer chrissake Brakes not "Breaks".
     
  16. canaryinthemine

    canaryinthemine Retirement....The Job I Was Born To Have!

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    I think we get the gist of what he was saying, Brother. Except for "certain" people here on this board..(me..)....We aren't held to a high standard of semantics, punctuation, or grammar. A Good Point is a Good Point.....

    As far as me,.....I hold myself to an impossibly high goal of perfection........only because I am a fussy, old curmudgeon with plenty of time on my hands, and access to a Thesarus...........
     
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    I didn't wanna go total Richard Cranium that early in the thread. I figured point out two easy to fix errors, and then as we progress I would throw in another here and there.
     
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    Might wanna dust off the cover of that THESAURUS, so you can atleast spell it right.
     
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  19. canaryinthemine

    canaryinthemine Retirement....The Job I Was Born To Have!

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    Hah! You got me!
     
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  20. seabreeze

    seabreeze Not Well Known Member, 60 Year Teamster Member

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    WOW! whut a letdown, I'll never reed another won of yore posts, kan't believe you made sush a mistook!
     
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