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thank you big$driver , we will get nailed bythe admin on this site , 2nd if your so big on the way ther "other side " works then go there but dont come crying back when you have to call in to see you still have a job everyday over there
 
watch and see if yrc fails you will all feel the affects.no more over time,pension,5 sick,3 personal,birthday off (paid) free health care. who needs a union? oh wait you dont get any of that now

But at least we will still have a job!!! I guess that overtime, and pension and personal days, and free ealth care will do you alot of good when your JOB is gone... I'll take what I have at R&L, over what you have at Holland anyday...
 
we should not have to go backwards.i do belive if we were both at a stop and i asked you to drive a holland truck i think you would be able to do it. am i correct.my point is you are doing the same job i am doing why not get the most money doing it. im not here to bash you. i didnt always have a union job. i worked for estes for 4 years.what changed my idea on these jobs was when i was backed in at pride health care i got talking to a union driver. he said he was on over time and i was not. that got me thinking why am i doing the same job as him and not geting payed for it. ill im trying to say here is that you people can have the same as us. yes i know were not doing well right now. if all the compines were union no matter what job you went to you would get the same. it would be a level playing field. im not aginst you i want you to have the same thing we have.
 
. if all the compines were union no matter what job you went to you would get the same. it would be a level playing field.

Isn't that called marxism or communism? All workers get the same regardless of individual skill or effort?
No thanks, I prefer capitalism, where the harder I work, the more I earn, and the faster I advance.

(Disclaimer) In no way are any of the opinions stated in this post intended to be construded as demeaning, insulting or mean spirited.
 
let get this right everybody makes a different rate at r and l based on performance? what happens when you get older and your legs dont work as good as they did. do they take money back off you?
 
Isn't that called marxism or communism? All workers get the same regardless of individual skill or effort?

All that does is causes resentment among the drivers. Why should some have to pick up the slack of others?

Socialism didn't work for the Russians, and it didn't work for the pilgrims in Plymouth, MA. They all damn near starved to death because of that.
 
No, but the better man gets the better run and makes more money. If you're a go-getter, you can make some serious coin. If you're a lazy, just do what ya gotta do type, well you're not going to make as much, no should you.
We've got both at my terminal. The hungry type, busting butt everyday and signing up to work weekends if has the hours available.
And the moving slow, don't give a darn about anything but themselves, just doing what they HAVE to do to get by.
And you think they should be paid the same? I suppose we should do away with grades in school and keeping scores at sporting events too? I mean after all it isn't fair right?

(Disclaimer) In no way are any of the opinions stated in this post intended to mean construded as demeaning, insulting or mean spirited.
 
we should not have to go backwards.i do belive if we were both at a stop and i asked you to drive a holland truck i think you would be able to do it. am i correct.my point is you are doing the same job i am doing why not get the most money doing it. im not here to bash you. i didnt always have a union job. i worked for estes for 4 years.what changed my idea on these jobs was when i was backed in at pride health care i got talking to a union driver. he said he was on over time and i was not. that got me thinking why am i doing the same job as him and not geting payed for it. ill im trying to say here is that you people can have the same as us. yes i know were not doing well right now. if all the compines were union no matter what job you went to you would get the same. it would be a level playing field. im not aginst you i want you to have the same thing we have.
Sir, I don't want the same thing you have...Your company is going bankrupt!!!
 
Isn't that called marxism or communism? All workers get the same regardless of individual skill or effort?
No thanks, I prefer capitalism, where the harder I work, the more I earn, and the faster I advance.

(Disclaimer) In no way are any of the opinions stated in this post intended to be construded as demeaning, insulting or mean spirited.

Amen TruckDiver, NO THANKS!!!!

PS, I like your disclaimer..
 
If you two want to discuss union-non union issues take it to the correct forum.This thread had nothing to do with this.
 
because of bottom feeders like you. strait time losers,pay for health care. you are all S C A B S.

Wow, calling me names, that hurts my little feelings...Come on our site and tell us how good you have it, and how bad we have it...Go ahead, blame everyone but yourself, and your company...Maybe all that "FREE" stuff you talk about, isn't really free... Looks like the tab is due on it now...Free healthcare, paid for pension, overtime....Yeah, its R&L Carriers putting you out of business...Damn, we are more powerful than I thought...I would rather be a straight time loser, and pay for my own healthcare, than work where you work...Oh, how much are you gonna give back?
 
because of bottom feeders like you. strait time losers,pay for health care. you are all S C A B S.

Are you trying to say it somehow OUR FAULT? WE caused this? That's ridiculous, I hear "men" complain about "corporate greed" all the time and how that's the root of all evil. Yet, somehow when it comes to their own greed, well that's different somehow.
If I'm a "bottom feeder" because I care about the health of MY company, more than the health of labor organization, fine by me.
Because it appears to be a strategy that's working. How's your plan working out for you?

Oh, and "****"? Just how does that apply to us?
Did we cross a picket line somewhere?
Get hired on to replace a striker?
Just how am I a ****? Cuz while that word may be an insult in your world, it's pretty well meaningless in mine. It just doesn't apply to me.

Agreed Shadow, I don't wanna discuss this dribble, but when someone pokes a stick in my side I gotta respond. Too bad we can't have a discussion on here without some outsider screwing it up. Wish there was a way to moderate that.


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It's nice to see that it is ok to come on our forum and attack us but heaven forbid we go on there forum and attack them. It is a tough time for all in this country and i feel for anyone who may lose there jobs , but fail to see how it's our fault.
 
It's nice to see that it is ok to come on our forum and attack us but heaven forbid we go on there forum and attack them. It is a tough time for all in this country and i feel for anyone who may lose there jobs , but fail to see how it's our fault.

amen it is not are fault we are trying to keep us alive.we need to do what needs to be done to keep all of our heads above water. that happens to other places is just poor brain trust I think.:woot:
 
It's nice to see that it is ok to come on our forum and attack us but heaven forbid we go on there forum and attack them. It is a tough time for all in this country and i feel for anyone who may lose there jobs , but fail to see how it's our fault.

realgearjammer will not be back on your board guys. let us know if anything happens like this. we try to catch everything but sometimes you gotta put out the bat signal :1036316054:
 
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