Obamacare premiums will go up by double-digit percentages next year

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  1. Rastus

    Rastus ......Deplorable.....

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  2. Rastus

    Rastus ......Deplorable.....

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    If you like your plan you can keep your plan.
    Premiums will drop $2400 a year.

    Suckers, chumps.
     
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    Apostolic Super Moderator Staff Member

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    In my opinion the biggest rip off with Obamas health care.
    Is if you are someone living paycheck to paycheck & can't find the money for insurance.
    When tax time rolls around the first of every year you are socked with a Hugh fine.
     
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  4. Bubba74

    Bubba74 Well-Known Member

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    I can't belief this big govt program is not working as advertised
    So we now have two choices

    1- double down with Hilly throw more money down the drain
    2- something else
     
  5. Rastus

    Rastus ......Deplorable.....

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    And they knew all this when then forced it on America. Not one republican vote for this mess.
     
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  6. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash OBAMA'S CREATION.

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    Obamacare isn't even in full affect yet, so it is going to get worse.
    But hey, who cares, Trump pulled Suzzie's hair 40 years ago.
     
  7. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash OBAMA'S CREATION.

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    The dumbing down of America has become a great investment for the Dems. Just offer something for free and they are hooked for life.
    Many of the them aren't smart enough to pour piss out of a boot.
     
  8. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash OBAMA'S CREATION.

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    Wait until the next group of insurance companies drop out of the exchanges, then there won't even be options at all.
    Drive hours for health services, then wait in line for hours.
    Sounds like fun.
     
  9. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    Trump said we can't let people just die going without, although he didn't spell out his plan.
    No one is going to just end Obamacare without having something much better in place first.
    Just won't happen
    But it is red meat for you guys :abnormal:



    just pay your premiums and stop the beeching



    Trumps a whiner

    :2437:
     
  10. a9faninnc

    a9faninnc Super Moderator Staff Member

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    More failure for the Bammers legacy.It is a shame that the first black president is such a failure and will go down in history as the one that gave us our biggest deficit,class warfare,clouded healthcare future,corruption,world turmoil,etc.....A damn shame,worst ever,by a long shot.
     
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    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    Let me recommend help[​IMG]
     
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    a9faninnc Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Touche[​IMG]
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  13. canaryinthemine

    canaryinthemine Retirement....The Job I Was Born To Have!

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    Are you guys sure it isn't the insurance companies themselves who are raising the rates? The original Affordable Care Act had a cap that insurances could charge, and the companies themselves lobbied heavily to remove that provision.

    The insurance companies and large employers also lobbied heavily against existing employees leaving group plans and crossing state lines for insurance.. This is the only nation in the world where your healthcare is tied to your employer,.....or , at least prior to Obamacare.

    You guys are blaming "Da' Gubment" when in reality , it's the insurance companies themselves who are trying to wreck Affordable Care by raising rates......egged on by the large employers who prefer to keep their employees "captive" by owning their healthcare........

    47 (?) votes in Congress to Defund Obamacare,........but not a single viable plan to replace it........other than go back the way it was......

    When are people going to stop blaming our government for the ills caused by big business?
     
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    a9faninnc Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Do you even recognize the losses that Bammercare has bestowed on the insurance companies???Not that I care,since most of them lobbied for it.I know most of you guys hate anything with corporations making money,but dont seem to have a problem when they lose millions.
     
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    Yes the insurance companies are raising rates to cover the cost of those insured
    Rate increases are approved by the govt via the ACA (ie Barry Care) they cannot arbitrarily raise rates
    The problem is the plan was a stinker to begin with
    take from young healthy people to subsidize older sicker people done via jacking up the rates on the young and subsidizing the rates on the old (wealth redistribution) Problem is the 2% penalty did not justify the 100% rate increases so the young healthy said screw it so the companies were left insuring older sicker people
    This program is a failure now Hilly wants to double down on it (let the people that screwed it up in the first place have another crack at it) Trump is offering free market solutions (such as purchasing over state lines- something that is currently not allowed)
     
  17. Rastus

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    Obamacare is so bad that a product the federal government requires people to and the insurance companies are losing so much money they're dropping out of selling it.
    What a joke.
     
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  19. Rastus

    Rastus ......Deplorable.....

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    Pelosi "It's Affordable". :hysterical:
     
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  20. canaryinthemine

    canaryinthemine Retirement....The Job I Was Born To Have!

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    Surely you're not going to tell me you're worried that the insurance companies aren't making enough..........profit?

    How about if we go back to the market-based solution we had years ago, ....and directly pay the doctor or the hospital? Companies and Unions that set up group plans directly paid the doctors with no insurance company interference years ago.......with the establishment of insurance-created HMO style of Employer-based "healthcare" in the '80's,....... insurance companies opened up a whole field ripe for the picking.....

    Insurance companies aren't healthcare.......they've inserted themselves between the doctor and the patient as the third-party money facilitator.....

    So much for market-based solutions.......

    Your insurance bill.........what you pay, and what's paid on your behalf.......is roughly about $1700.00 a month......... including your car, home , Worker's Compensation, life insurance...... That's what each one of us are worth to the insurance companies on a monthly basis.......

    Obscenely outrageous is what I would call it.......and especially in "healthcare"....... completely unnecessary,. .......as we used to have a system thirty years ago that worked, long before insurance companies set their sights on our wallets.... .

    What is the Republican plan,......that they recently developed,.......when someone reminded them that after 47 votes to de-fund,.........and NO viable plan,.. .....that it looked pretty strange?
    Oh,..... that's right,......be able to buy across state lines......you can do that now with your car insurance or your life insurance,........but the insurance companies themselves lobbied for state systems.........Something about a captive pool of applicants.......

    How about if we quit worrying about their profits, and started to take care of people by going to a single payer, and getting insurance companies out of the "healthcare" business?
     
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