Discussion in 'ABF Freight System' started by bknodfl, Jun 14, 2014.
I have always found their is three sides to the story.
The union story
The true story
This post smells like it came from a pot stirring troll. I don't usually get into name calling but his calling canary a communist was uncalled for.
Why don't you offer us your opinion on the thread topic? If things are as good as you claim then why are ODFL drivers leaving for ABF. Are they just the losers who can't cut it at an "at will employer"? If so I'm surprised that OD hadn't already terminated them.
You make sound like it's a mass exudes from OD to ABF.
You really think there is one simple answer?
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Did I hit a nerve, are you one the screw ups, scumbags, or slackers the union protects. Or was it the Numbers. Do you not read, stated TWICE what was contributed. Sorry unable to write in crayon or draw you a picture. Must be side effects of socialist slop. No union scum, (Not the honest persons who fought the corruption and theft from union members, or blind support of politico's who lower living standards for ALL Americans) like yourself did wrong to all who believe in a system that is NOT corrupt. Yes you sound like the boy, who would bend over for your masters to get a little more, Sad their are people like yourself that is so useless that only supporting the corrupt enables your perks, Been people throughout history with your mindset. What makes the general population NOT support or believe in union movement.
That's your biased opinion. The number of defecting drivers wasn't mentioned. But a few on topic opinions were offered in answer to bknodfl's question. .
Then the OD apologist came in with his b/s post about us not having our facts straight.
Same propaganda that has been spewed for 100 years. Study history.
What's bias about what I just said?
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I just knew my canary's kept a close eye on the TV when the missile crises was upon us.
Little did I know they were spy's ...............
Lighten up kids ....................
The OP didn't say if they were senior, junior, or middle of the pack guys that left. I would assume junior guys, probably for vacation, and a steady supply of miles/hours.
There's another thread about retires getting 600+ mi runs, while full timers are sometimes only getting 340...could be something like that??
You're still trying to stir the pot in an attempt to dodge the truth. You claimed that you were laid off and then rehired. But here is a quote by Old Dominion Vice President of Safety and Personnel Brian S. who stated under oath that ODFL doesn't lay off they terminate
So what's it gonna be Ruffian 72 was your post ignorant of the facts or just a lie? Until you answer the question everything else you post on this thread is just more of your ignorant b/s
Umm,.....that would be "Communist Kool-Aider Canary",......If you're going to use a disparaging term, at least get the trademarked part of it right.....You're breaking some capitalist's heart, now.......He spent good money to establish "Kool-Aid" as a nationally recognized brand,....and you're not literate enough to abuse it properly,.....For crying out loud,...it's spelled out in big pastel letters on the packages in your grocery cart,....right next to the three six-packs of Old Milwaulkee,....and the seven cartons of Winstons.....Maybe you've buried it under the wine bottles.......You've just simply got to elevate your reading level beyond the backs of cereal boxes,....expand your horizons, so to speak.............What I meant about your pay scale not being published is that you are not subject to a Labor law protected pay package,.....you are subject to "employment--at-will" laws,..which can change the rules of your very employment,...if not just your pay and benefits package,....on a daily basis. ODFL has stalled pay raises in the past,.....The reason you don't get overtime is that trucking is the only major occupation, along with tree-sap gatherers, fishermen, and motion-picture operators,....that is not subject to the Fair Labor Standards act of 1938........Ask your dispatcher,...I'm sure he can explain it in a way where you're sure you don't need it,......That'll save you from having to read it on the Department of Labor...(A Hot Bed Of Communists!..) ..posters that are required by law to be posted in a prominent place where you are employed ,......And if your dispatcher can explain it to you,...well then you won't have to struggle with all those two and three syllable words that are on the poster,.....Those Communist Eggheads won't even put pictures on the poster!..... How'n'hell's a man s'pposed t' unnerstan' whot th' hell they're talkin' 'bout , iff'n there ain't no pictures?
And,...by the way, Mr. Ruffian72,.....ABF is not "union-controlled",......and the only thing making your insurance premium go up is the fact that you don't have your benefits spelled out in a legal contract,......and the insurance companies are trying to "milk" every sucker they can, ...before the Affordable Care Act shuts them down, and forces them to quit gouging people,.......really,....some of you should read the synopsis of the Act,...instead of taking the word of those shills for Big Business on talk radio,.......yeah,...I know reading's painful,...and only for"sissies",.....but there's a world,...."literally",....of information out there that's written down, so therefore, it can't be twisted and spun like the "pundits" on the radio do.......
Dident hit a nerve with me my man, I work my ass off.... Like you I also control a portion of my retirement & like I pointed out its much better then what your employer gives you. Hope I dident hit a nerve whiner....
Good Grief!.......well,...I apologize, Mr. Ruffian 72!....I didn't know you were a Student of History! What do you think of the Haymarket Massacre?.....The Battle of Homestead?,......The Wyoming mine strikes?........The Pinkertons rioting in the W. Va coal fields?......The removal of Habeus Corpus for miners only in Cambria County?........How about Helen Keller?.....You know she's blind and deaf,...but how about her joining the American Socialist Party,....and the IWW,...the Wobblies,...and spending the last 60 years of her life fighting for workers' rights?........How about Frick, Carnegie, J.P.Morgan, Vanderbilt,..all doing their best to make it illegal to join a Union at the turn of the century,....but they kept on running up against that pesky old First Amendment right of redress of grievances and right of assembly?.....Why,...we could talk for hours about history!,.......Did you read Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle",...which was about conditions in the meat-packing industry at the turn of the century that were so bad, that once that good Republican, Theodore Roosevelt read it ,...he lobbied for, and passed the Pure Foods Act,....(...after which, Hormel tried to sue him,....and lambasted him in the press,...."talk radio" of that time.....)......Why,....we could go on and on!.....Let's talk about more History! I'd like to hear about " Same propaganda that has been spewed for 100 years."
Why not leave the CSPF alone for five years. See if a better solution comes along.
scumbags , union scum like yourself and communists, that's really appropriate to this thread. It shows a lot of class doesn't it? Ruffian 72's posts add nothing to this topic. He came on to the ABF forum in an attempt to derail this thread because it was embarrassing to his beloved OD. He refuses to address the facts in this thread. He ignores the real questions asked of him. Instead he continues to attack the union and our pensions.......Maybe it's people like him that chased the drivers in question over to ABF.
Hes just plain ignorant
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He must think calling people names gets his point across..... im still waiting for that to happen....
Just more of the union hater's hit and run tactics. He comes on this union site and posts his ignorant attacks. Then he runs and hides back on the OD site where we can't touch him............ TB has a rule against trolling.
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