Officials: 13 dead in NYC tour bus accident

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  1. R-14Driver

    R-14Driver Well-Known Member

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    NEW YORK – Thirteen people died Saturday when a tour bus traveling down a major highway in the Bronx was clipped by a tractor trailer, flipped onto its side and was sliced in half by the support pole for a large sign, authorities said.

    The wreck left a scene of carnage and closed the southbound side of Interstate-95 for hours while emergency workers attended to critically injured survivors.

    Police began a hunt for the driver of the tractor trailer, which did not stop after the crash, New York Police Department spokesman Paul Browne said.

    The bus, operated by the charter company World Wide Tours, was headed to Manhattan's Chinatown neighborhood carrying a full load of passengers returning from the Mohegan Sun casino in Uncasville, Conn.

    As it entered the city at around 5:30 a.m., it was struck from behind by a tractor trailer, Browne said. The bus began swerving, toppled and crashed into the support post for a highway sign indicating the exit for the Hutchinson Parkway..................

    Officials: 13 dead in NYC tour bus accident - Yahoo! News

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  2. Cerberus_Kelpie

    Cerberus_Kelpie Wings Over the World!

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    Hopefully the pathetic excuse of a truck driver is discovered and EXECUTED ON THE SPOT.
     
  3. jeepman

    jeepman Truckload Mercenary

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    Can't agree with you more!
     
  4. Apostolic

    Apostolic Super Moderator Staff Member

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    WOW how could any Bus passengers make it out alive?
    And the Trucker left the scene, shame on him,or her,when they get caught their own life will be wrecked forever.
     
  5. shadowr434

    shadowr434 Super Moderator Staff Member

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    You guys are assuming that there was a truck driver in the first place. Seems like a good excuse to use if you either fell asleep or were doing something you weren't suppose to do at the time.A phantom truck driver bumped me,we certainly know most law enforcement are more than willing to believe a bad trucker.Also I dont know if any of you guys are familiar with these bus companies operating in this area going to and from China town but they are among some of the worst drivers on the road,very dangerous.After reading the article its even more clear to me that said tractor trailer most likely doesnt even exist.He told police he lost control trying to avoid a swerving truck and authorities arent even sure if the two vehicles came in contact.
     
  6. shifty

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    cant agree more. a bad mechenic always blames his tools. if there is evidence of the scrape then match the paint and hopfully they can find the other vehicle, but intil then quit blaming us
     
  7. Apostolic

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    The only way to tell if there was another vehicle involved is if the other vehicle swapped some paint with this bus.
    Other than brush marks somewhere on the bus,there is no other way of knowing if this bus driver was the loan cause of this crash.
     
  8. shadowr434

    shadowr434 Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I think one of the telling evidence is that he claims after loosing control after the encounter with said phantom truck,he ran up against the guard rail for 300 ft before rolling over.Well if it was you wouldn't you have been trying to stop that bus? So if he hit his brakes I would think it would have slowed him down some but the impact with the sign post tell me he hit at a high rate of speed going all the way through the bus. I know I wasn't there but I'm going to go out on a limb here and say he fell asleep at the wheel,struck and ran up against the guard rail and rolled over before he could react from waking up. After that he knew he was really screwed so make up a story about some out of control trucker because everyone seems to want to believe that.
     
  9. Apostolic

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    Well I know it is a proven fact whenever a driver of a motor vehicle dozes off while driving they slouch,or slump forward where by pushing more weight on the accelerator,causing the vehicle to speed up.
    Other than that issue,ever see those tour bus jockeys wheeling down the highway,I often wonder myself why they don't get pulled over by the cops and ticketed for speeding.

    Either way if this bus driver was really flying as most do,or he was drifting off into dream land the speed on impact was what caused that highway marker sign post to go so far into the bus.

    Now to determine if a Semi whacked the bus,there has to be evidence of the other vehicle somewhere on the bus,which I'm sure will come out in the crash scene investigation.
    However as you say shadowr434,until then it is just speculation to what did cause that horrific crash
     
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  10. R-14Driver

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    UPDATE : Company involved in NY bus crash has accident history, records show

    New York (CNN) -- The bus company involved in an accident that left at least 14 people dead in New York this weekend has been involved in at least two other crashes with injuries in the past two years, government records show.

    World Wide Travel was involved in a crash in New York in 2009 that resulted in one injury, and a crash in New Jersey in 2010 resulting in one injury, according to records on the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration website.

    The company has been cited five times for "fatigued driving" between December 2009 and October 2010 -- twice in in New Jersey, twice in Pennsylvania and once in Connecticut, records show.............

    Company involved in NY bus crash has accident history, records show - CNN.com

    STORY HIGHLIGHTS

    * NEW: NTSB investigators looking for video of bus driver's casino activities before the accident
    * Witnesses tell police bus rolled over rumble strips
    * Driver of tractor-trailer disputes bus driver account of crash involvement, police source says
    * Witnesses say bus was traveling very fast before accident that killed 14


    ..............Police recovered a tractor-trailer that was traveling through the area at the time and interviewed the vehicle's driver.

    The driver of the tractor trailer denied that two vehicles collided before the bus crashed, the law enforcement source told CNN.

    "We're treating him as a witness, not a suspect," according to the the law enforcement source, who is involved in the investigation......................
     
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    They talked about this on the news this morning. People on the bus said the driver of the bus swerved several times before the accident. Looking more and more like the drivers fault. They also said he was speeding.
     
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    I thought there was a on board camera in the bus that is pointed at the driver for reasons as for talking on the cell phone or texting??? And it would also make sense to have one pointed forward for traffic for accidents like this.
     
  14. Apostolic

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    Little by little the truth of the cause of this crash seems to becoming out.
    Between other drivers on the road where this happened along with cameras,this tour bus jokey may be up the creek.
    2 UPS truckers say they witnessed this bus speeding by them before the crash,there seems to also be another trucker who claims he saw the bus swerving ahead of him.

     
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    I knew it. Having personal experience with these buses up here I just knew he was full of it.
     
  17. Apostolic

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    part of the problem with these low cost bus lines are the way they pay their drivers. for example, the drivers usually get paid more on the amount of runs they can do in a day. basically they're motivated by $$$ to hustle up & down the highways without any regard to safety. bigger companies such as Greyhound and PeterPan put a greater emphasis on safety but then again they're not low-cost bus lines.
     
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    Another UPDATE : 11 more bus drivers arrested in NY crackdown

    New York officials have arrested 11 more bus drivers in the greater New York City area for using aliases to get fraudulent licenses in an ongoing investigation following the March 12 tour bus crash that killed 15 people in the Bronx.

    Read more: 11 more bus drivers arrested in NY crackdown - FoxNews.com
     

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