OK, my $2.00 worth on 2019 and beyond

Discussion in 'ABF Freight System' started by 6PakAbs, Jun 18, 2017.

  1. ABFer

    ABFer Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Please forgive me but this one made me laugh. Of course paying mileage would be cheaper but it would be no where near as 'easy' as just providing the car with gas and insurance as part of the pay package. I have heard of a situation where the B/A's are provided with an exorbitant flat rate 'auto allowance' in lieu of just a car or mileage pay.
     
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  2. seabreeze

    seabreeze Not Well Known Member, 60 Year Teamster Member

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    Back in 1962 at local 71 we had 2 BAs and the president got carried away with their exorbitant package deal,
    wound up costing all three two yrs in the big house.
     
  3. seabreeze

    seabreeze Not Well Known Member, 60 Year Teamster Member

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    Not to mention how boring when you don't golf, and I don't
     
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  4. canaryinthemine

    canaryinthemine Retirement....The Job I Was Born To Have!

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    Our Local had a big floor discussion concerning auto expenses, reimbursement, and the potential leasing of vehicles. The officers recused themselves from comment, and told the members however they motioned from the floor is how they would proceed in the future. They placed the responsibility of the cost, and how the policy would be enacted firmly in the hands of the rank-and-file.

    Isn't that the way it's supposed to be?
     
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  5. ABFer

    ABFer Super Moderator Staff Member

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    NO, NO, NO...here's is how it's supposed to be...the Executive Board proposes a perk for themselves to be incorporated into the Bylaws via a motion and a second by themselves or two of their buddies, then it gets voted on in a meeting stacked with their buddies and becomes law forever more.
     
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    Spunkster Active Member

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    How was the buffet?
     
  7. canaryinthemine

    canaryinthemine Retirement....The Job I Was Born To Have!

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    Tasted like sand and ashes........taste got worse when you think of all the people relying on a good grievance outcome based on the contract, ........... and the dues money wasted on a purely political outcome.....
     
  8. Elwood

    Elwood Question Authority

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    It would make the most sense to fleet lease and apply an app or install the same devices used in fleet trucks to verify use. Overages in mileage would be charged back to the BA.
     
  9. troubleman84

    troubleman84 Well-Known Member

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    You pay 10% of all expenses towards car at end of the year.
     
  10. DIRTFT30+

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    Couldn't agree more! How many times does a person have to get burnt before they realize Never give back!NEVER! We work hard and deserve MUCH more than we're making!!!!We deliver everything!!!!Every store ,factory,school,farm,courtroom gavel and ect,is brought by truck drivers!!!! We deserve much more money as well as respect!!!!DON'T GIVE BACK!!!! If they can't afford to pay us,CLOSE THE DOORS!! Then they can find a new job also!!! AND don't forget the lifelong saying,,,YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!!!
     
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  11. canaryinthemine

    canaryinthemine Retirement....The Job I Was Born To Have!

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    How about: "Good is Never Cheap, ...and Cheap is Never Good"? If they want to go cheap on pay and benefits, and still think the Quality Process will sustain,.............then all we can say is that you'll get what you.....pay for.

    Why do they think that all the non-Unions raised their hourly rate to a buck or so more than the Union carriers? Two reasons:......To forestall any thought of organizing,....and to Hoover up the best CDL holders in an increasingly shrinking pool of availability.

    Good Contract in 2018!
     
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  12. ABFer

    ABFer Super Moderator Staff Member

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    And they used to get the lackies that the union companies wouldn't hire but now the tables have turned...but upper management doesn't get it and doesn't care.
     
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    seabreeze Not Well Known Member, 60 Year Teamster Member

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    Be careful making a suggestion like that, in the old days some BAs would have you fitted with concrete swim fins.
    BTW, Don't think a lot of things done today make sense.
     
  14. Elwood

    Elwood Question Authority

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    Gotta catch me first. As soon as the app is installed, 'find friends' will insure I keep a safe distance. :17142:

    :smilie93c peelout:
     
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    I was honestly looking at the pay rates between ABF & Old Dominion, and it really surprised me. They are offering a pay and benefits package that is basically on par with ABF. The only difference would be a 401k vs. pension. And let's not ever count on that pension happening, guys. That's how I've always lived my life.
     
  16. SAC75

    SAC75 Well-Known Member

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    They don't get overtime. Pretty big difference if you count that and our insurance is by far superior to theirs. If your spouse has a job offering insurance they will not cover them. Just saying. I agree with your pension statement though. I've got 24 years tell I'm 65. Not holding my breath on seeing a pension payment.
     
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    I was over the road at ABF. I will let you know when I get those overtime checks.
     
  18. ABFer

    ABFer Super Moderator Staff Member

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    That how ours is too, may not be the same everywhere though.
     
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    SAC75 Well-Known Member

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    I'm road too smarty. You can't deny our insurance though.
     
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    SAC75 Well-Known Member

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    I'm in central states and we don't have to take our spouses insurance. I got married about 4 years ago. There was no restrictions or questions about my wife's company or insurance. Just name social security number and the kids info. Maybe teamcare has changed from previous eligibility requirements.

    https://myteamcare.org/faqs/eligibility.aspx
     
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