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Teamster251 said:
Skeeter what about the MAJORITY that voted for union representation at various terminals and O'nite did not bargin in good faith. Onite broke or violated every NLRB ruling or law and paid millions in fines to boot.

Problem this time around is UPS has an image to uphold. They aren't going to let negative press tarnish thier image.
Bring it on Skeeter we're waiting.
you definatly hit the nail on the head t251,don't mean to flame or insult ya, skeet, just think maybe you never saw the bad side,or turned a blind eye on what big'o'did to some of our coworkers,seen it at our terminal,can remember when i first started many: moons ago,people were afraid to even mention the' u' word,or were fired for it,not right,thats what i got a problem with.:tribehasspoken:
 
Skeeter said:
I GUESS I CAN YELL TO. NO WE DON'T SPEAK FOR YOU AND WOULDN'T EVEN TRY. I JUST SPEAK WITH THE MAJORITY THAT SPOKE LAST TIME AROUND.

BY THE WAY THEY ARE STILL HERE! HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH NEW GAMES/COACHES AS YOU PUT IT. IT HAS TO DO WITH ONES BELIEF IN HIS OR HERSELF AND WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THE COMPANY THEY WORK FOR. THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT TIME WILL TELL.

I WOULD CALL YOU A NAME LIKE SILLY GOOSE BUT I HAVE GROWN UP. IT SEEMS YOU HAVEN'T.
think you might be forgetting the majority that did'nt have a chance to speek,becuse a couple of guys like you like to gang up on them at meetings,at the terminal,and put em on the spot,in front of managemnt,so ,not all overnite employees got to speek openly about it,without someone like you harrassing them,as far as growing up:rolleyes: :biglaugh: ,in some of your post,one would really doubt it
 
CHARLES BRONSON said:
think you might be forgetting the majority that did'nt have a chance to speek,becuse a couple of guys like you like to gang up on them at meetings,at the terminal,and put em on the spot,in front of managemnt,so ,not all overnite employees got to speek openly about it,without someone like you harrassing them,as far as growing up:rolleyes: :biglaugh: ,in some of your post,one would really doubt it
Sounds like a planted heckler at a comedy show, just there to enhance the performance of the one in the spotlight.
 
togdenjr said:
When the union tried to strike OVNT in '97 or so.... I had my personal vehicle vandalized, we had 20 tractors at our term vandalized (poked holes in radiators and all air lines sliced). This was just more than just a few people to do this!!!!
Sorry to hear what happened to your personal vehicle. I still say a few bad people make for the bad name ... The Teamsters are 1.4 million strong ... please don't play it out we are all that way. Many good men and women are proud union members, we don't need to resort to vandalism and threats.
Instead keep an open mind and learn all the facts, not just what management has to say, because it seems O/N really didn't care about the employees afterall. They almost ran a good old company into the ground, but they spent millions to keep the union out at the same time, and paid their executives million dollor plus packages !
How well did Overnite take care of you ?
 
CFer said:
hugnlug, the problem is that "underfunded" is a very ominous sounding word that gets thrown around a lot ( by the anti union supporters in this case) but is more of an accounting term than anything and really does not mean what it sounds like
Back in the mid nineties, "O's" pension was believe it or not overfunded. Due to a lack luster year combined with other expense issues, management dipped into the pension to add to the bottom line of "O's" stock portfolio. By doing so the company appeared to have made a profit and in turn secured healthy bonuses for upper management. As far as accounting goes, technically the company did not lose any money, but we the employees did. As of last year, we were 10% underfunded and growing due to inflation and other factors. Has UPS fixed it? I have no clue.
 
Animo916 said:
Sounds like a planted heckler at a comedy show, just there to enhance the performance of the one in the spotlight.
:biglaugh: :rofl2:,YOUR ABSOULUTLY RIGHT,IN UNITY,THERE IS STRENGTH!UNITY,UNITY,UNITY:beerchug:
 
CHARLES BRONSON said:
think you might be forgetting the majority that did'nt have a chance to speek,becuse a couple of guys like you like to gang up on them at meetings,at the terminal,and put em on the spot,in front of managemnt,so ,not all overnite employees got to speek openly about it,without someone like you harrassing them,as far as growing up:rolleyes: :biglaugh: ,in some of your post,one would really doubt it

Hmmm, dont like being ganged up on? try being in chicago or a simalar place when the union is making a big push to organize a non union company. Try to drive your car home with the windshield smashed out, try giving your buddy a ride to the ER to get stiches in his head because a two by four swung by a "peaceful union organizer" is alot harder that his head. Try to convince people the union has changed since old man hoffa turned it into a haven for thugs and money hungry Managers.
 
galaxy99dx said:
Hmmm, dont like being ganged up on? try being in chicago or a simalar place when the union is making a big push to organize a non union company. Try to drive your car home with the windshield smashed out, try giving your buddy a ride to the ER to get stiches in his head because a two by four swung by a "peaceful union organizer" is alot harder that his head. Try to convince people the union has changed since old man hoffa turned it into a haven for thugs and money hungry Managers.
who's to say that these'THUGS':nutkick: were'nt ,in fact ,hired by the COMPANY,:chairshot: to discredit the union,and it's supporters,happened at OVERNITE, a tTERMINAL MANAGER-DALE WATSON,testified in court,and also signed affidavids,that that did ,in fact,happen:duh: :duh:
 
CHARLES BRONSON said:
think you might be forgetting the majority that did'nt have a chance to speek,becuse a couple of guys like you like to gang up on them at meetings,at the terminal,and put em on the spot,in front of managemnt,so ,not all overnite employees got to speek openly about it,without someone like you harrassing them,as far as growing up:rolleyes: :biglaugh: ,in some of your post,one would really doubt it

First of all you really don't know me or what you are talking about. You are wrong the majority did choose thats why we are nonunion today. If the majority this time around chooses to vote for the union then we will be union. You won't hear be crying on this site if we do like a lot of you because we didin't go union.

I have always supported the majority and against Hoffa and his tactics. If it wasn't for Hoffa I might even voted teamsters. But I'm not going to vote yes when he stated he would put Overnite out of business if they didn't go union. All he wanted was more power and dues he didn't care about the people he would put out of work. I only respond the way a person responds to me.
So it sounds like you have a lot of growing up to do also. :nutkick:
 
Skeeter said:
First of all you really don't know me or what you are talking about. You are wrong the majority did choose thats why we are nonunion today. If the majority this time around chooses to vote for the union then we will be union. You won't hear be crying on this site if we do like a lot of you because we didin't go union.

I have always supported the majority and against Hoffa and his tactics. If it wasn't for Hoffa I might even voted teamsters. But I'm not going to vote yes when he stated he would put Overnite out of business if they didn't go union. All he wanted was more power and dues he didn't care about the people he would put out of work. I only respond the way a person responds to me.
So it sounds like you have a lot of growing up to do also.
not for nothing,who? ever said anything,when did HOFFA EVER SAY?,that HE was gonna put OVERNITE out of business? HE said ,and I remember the slogan 'SHUT OVERNITE DOWN',it did'nt say'PUT OVERNITE OUT OF BUSINESS'and the reason to shut overnite down was becuase of OVERNITES GOONISHNESS,THUGGARY,STRONGARM,GESTAPO TACTICS that it pulled,ILLEGALLY DISCHARGING EMPLOYEES,ILLEGALLYwithholding pay raises from EMPLOYEES that VOTED for UNION REPRESENTATION,ILLEGALLY closing terminals down that did VOTE FOR UNION REPRESENTATION, and ILLEGALLY HARRASSING EMPLOYEES,ILLEGAL REFUSAL TO BARGAIN,ILLEGAL REFUSAL TO BARGAIN IN GOOD FAITH,and a host of many,many other things,but,like some,if it did'nt happen to you,it did'nt happen in SKEETERS WORLD',maybe CB was right about you:GrowUp: ,sorry,not trying to be a:butthead: to ya,man,but 'o'smanagement pulled an awful lot of SH.t on us,the employees,and very ILLEGAL. if there is any of us who put in any amount of time at o,we've either all seen this go/going on for years,or personally been the recipient on the recieving end,none of us can deny ,hode,or turn a blind eye from it.that was the purpose of the unfair labor practice strike,did it mean that the strike should have only been in a select are/cities,no,when there is injustice done,teamsters stick toghether nationwide,otherwise,what kind of a union would it have been to do it the otherway,something drastically needed to be done,they illegally discharged 200/250 employees in memphis alone,not to mention nationwide,what,was everyone supposed to just laydown and take it,just becuase you and some others may have been wiiling to do so? that would'nt be a UNION,but a country club membership.isHOFFA human,YES,does HE make mistakes,YES,like any human does.ever heard the saying'to err is human,to forgive is divine'do I think he made a mistake in appointing MURPHY as the head of the organizing department,YES,by the way,I met him here in my town,nice guy,but I DID'NT think he was the right guy for the job,he's a former BEER TRUCK DRIVER,not a freight guy,which is what you need to take on a freight company,someone with knowlegde,understanding of the business/industry.do I & MY COWORKERS THINK HOFFA is the right man for the job,Most of us here DO!as far as you voting union,I highly doubt it,but,I,and many others ,probably,would like to be kind enough to give YOU the benifit of the doubt,and when we do go,I would like to welcome you as a BROTHER,but ,from your post's,like I said,I'M BIG ENOUGH,as probably many others are,to GIVE YOU the benifit of the doubt,what a concept UNITY,STRENGTH,PRIDE,RESPECT:bgroovy: :tribehasspoken:
 
galaxy99dx said:
UNITY,STRENGTH,PRIDE,RESPECT,
sounds like something from a socialist pamphlet.
hate to brake it to ya,bud,UNIONS are as AMERICAN AS ANY/EVERYTHING in this COUNTRY!,MORE AMERICAN THAN LEO SUGGS:nutkick: ,and DAMN SURE more AMERICAN THAN 'O'S MANEGMENT TEAM.:chairshot: ,their alright,i suppose,for (⊙▃⊙) GERMANY,STALIN'S RUSSIA,and after STALIN'S RUSSIA, and MUSSOLINNI'S FASCITS ITALY, LEO & BUD'S FOR PRESIDENT(OF IRAQ):nutkick: .sure that YOUR not a RED,or a FASCITS PARTY MEMBER?.:smilie_132: ,OH,by the way,I suppose that you thing that COE'S like WORLDCOMS. BERNIE EBBERS,TYCO'S DENNIS KOZLOWSKI,ENRONS KEN LAY,ANDY FASTOW,JEFFREY SKILLING, AND ADELPHIA'S JOHN RIGAS & SON'S were such 'wonderful people', or'WONDERFUL CORPORATE CITIZENS',YA know,those POOR CEO'S' NEED ALL THE HELP STEALING/SWINDILING/PILAGING/BANKRUPTING/MANIPULATING,and sympathy they can get,suppose YOU also believe that HEALTHSOUTH CEO RICHARD SCRUSHY is really religous,and really 'A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN', or HE really was innocent,or 'a down to earth guy/good ole boy'.get real,it's in the paper everyday about these scumbags,and oil industry scumbags,to,how about the Huge PRofits that BIG OIL & it's ceo's,have been reaping,at the expense of the country,and it's Employees,think that "they take care of em', or 'TREAT EM RIGHT'.: THAT'S REAL,REAL SILLY ..
 
BUTTONMAN74 said:
hate to brake it to ya,bud,UNIONS are as AMERICAN AS ANY/EVERYTHING in this COUNTRY!,MORE AMERICAN THAN LEO SUGGS:nutkick: ,and DAMN SURE more AMERICAN THAN 'O'S MANEGMENT TEAM.:chairshot: ,their alright,i suppose,for (⊙▃⊙) GERMANY,STALIN'S RUSSIA,and after STALIN'S RUSSIA, and MUSSOLINNI'S FASCITS ITALY, LEO & BUD'S FOR PRESIDENT(OF IRAQ):nutkick: .sure that YOUR not a RED,or a FASCITS PARTY MEMBER?.:smilie_132: ,OH,by the way,I suppose that you thing that COE'S like WORLDCOMS. BERNIE EBBERS,TYCO'S DENNIS KOZLOWSKI,ENRONS KEN LAY,ANDY FASTOW,JEFFREY SKILLING, AND ADELPHIA'S JOHN RIGAS & SON'S were such 'wonderful people', or'WONDERFUL CORPORATE CITIZENS',YA know,those POOR CEO'S' NEED ALL THE HELP STEALING/SWINDILING/PILAGING/BANKRUPTING/MANIPULATING,and sympathy they can get,suppose YOU also believe that HEALTHSOUTH CEO RICHARD SCRUSHY is really religous,and really 'A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN', or HE really was innocent,or 'a down to earth guy/good ole boy'.get real,it's in the paper everyday about these scumbags,and oil industry scumbags,to,how about the Huge PRofits that BIG OIL & it's ceo's,have been reaping,at the expense of the country,and it's Employees,think that "they take care of em', or 'TREAT EM RIGHT'.: THAT'S REAL,REAL SILLY ..
Its called supply and demand. This is still a capitolist country. The union should think about replacing you on this forum with someone who can write literatly.
 
galaxy99dx said:
Its called supply and demand. This is still a capitolist country. The union should think about replacing you on this forum with someone who can write literatly.[/QUOTEWHO EVER SAID I WAS PERFECT,I suppose you spell every word 100% correct,all the time,everytime
:biglaugh: :nutkick: :rofl2: :rofl2: sure try to be perfect,though.
 
BUTTONMAN74 said:
:bgroovy: :Pick-Me: :beerchug: For Our Families/our Futures/ For Our Country/ For Working People In General/union Yes!:tribehasspoken:

Still sounds an awful lot like marching slogans,, "get in line, chant the slogan, dissent or say no to us and we will hurt you."
Future historical quote from the Peoples Republic of Teamsters
 
BUTTONMAN74 said:
galaxy99dx said:
Its called supply and demand. This is still a capitolist country. The union should think about replacing you on this forum with someone who can write literatly.[/QUOTEWHO EVER SAID I WAS PERFECT,I suppose you spell every word 100% correct,all the time,everytime
:biglaugh: :nutkick: :rofl2: :rofl2: sure try to be perfect,though.
not the spelling excactly, but all the capitalizations and unneccasary commas make your union propoganda very tedious to read.
 
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galaxy99dx said:
Still sounds an awful lot like marching slogans,, "get in line, chant the slogan, dissent or say no to us and we will hurt you."
Future historical quote from the Peoples Republic of Teamsters
you sound like you know an awful lot about marching tunes,sounds like you been marching to somebody elses tune for awhile:nutkick: :nutkick: :biglaugh: bet he's an 'R' ,IN 'W'S or maybe ARNULD'S,PARTY tradition.
 
Galaxy, Buttonman,

I realize I am not a moderator, but flaming each other does nothing to promote knowledge and information. Let's :highfive: and stop :Duel:
 
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