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estes_fr8 said:
No lies pure truth. Your precious teamster union has a long history of corruption, and im glad you are so proud of that. The only people the teamsters have helped out is the mob in las vegas. Thats about it.

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This guy is silly and childish. Corruption is like oxygen sir. It is everywhere. Should we ban law enforcement because a minority is corrupt? Should we not put our faith in government or church? Institutions who have all had corruption. Like I asked you before, and I know it is a tough question. If a proven organization who has helped millions of families become more prosperous ( even families who are not part of the union) are not the answer to the problems that estes drivers face, then what is the alternative????? Elvis out and still waiting....
 
estes_fr8 said:
No lies pure truth. Your precious teamster union has a long history of corruption, and im glad you are so proud of that. The only people the teamsters have helped out is the mob in las vegas. Thats about it.

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Myth of Union Corruption | TPMCafe
But many of the loans did serve their intended purpose, making money to pay for Teamsters' retirement benefits. The hotels, casinos and other real estate projects, not all of which were connected to organized crime, were generally profitable, according to Mr. Stier, and before his disappearance Hoffa saw to it that his loans were repaid.
 
2631 said:
Myth of Union Corruption | TPMCafe
But many of the loans did serve their intended purpose, making money to pay for Teamsters' retirement benefits. The hotels, casinos and other real estate projects, not all of which were connected to organized crime, were generally profitable, according to Mr. Stier, and before his disappearance Hoffa saw to it that his loans were repaid.
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I told you estesfr8. There are very informed individuals who will pound you into submission with facts while debating the union vs. non union issue. I would suggest viewing the stink in the air thread, located in the union/ non union debate forum. Very educational to say the least. These guys could convert George W. Bush into a proud union brother. Elvis out....
 
elvis said:
I told you estesfr8. There are very informed individuals who will pound you into submission with facts while debating the union vs. non union issue. I would suggest viewing the stink in the air thread, located in the union/ non union debate forum. Very educational to say the least. These guys could convert George W. Bush into a proud union brother. Elvis out....
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Bush a union man? I'd give anything to see that:hysterical: All hail Elvis king of the working stiffs He gets my write in vote for President in 08:1036316054:
 
I beg to differ!

thebeerboy said:
look ...why are we still fighting. everyone is corrupt. what do ya do. i love that the teamsters fight for drivers. that is always a good thing. now as far as estes going union ....good luck. as far as driving goes, estes doesn't treat their people like trash. (cussing at the drivers, making them(drivers) work,etc,etc) now pay wise maybe drivers should be "treated" better. but on the same breath everything that the drivers and dock workers will be "entilted" to will be negotiated. who says drivers will loose pay or never get the delay pay or pentalty pay we so deserve. i hate the way teamsters organize. its hard to get guys to stand up for themselves when the dispatchers treat the drivers like trash. what makes anyone think drivers will join a union to get pay???? when in more times than not if the drivers vote yes, if (a big if at that)the drivers get a contract, they will loose pay for a contract or two. that has been the tract record. i know the gi drivers got the shaft ( lost pay,now being laid off). i see more a point for the west guys they lost alot with the estes occupation. i understand that point. but to say the teamsters are the end all be all to all that is trucking is well a foolish statement. the teamsters will and have made trucking better. that is a fact but the sad truth is drivers cant even call their elected officals in the white house to try to get this mexcan truck thing stopped. if drivers cant even give a ::shit:: about the future of the industry as a whole what makes anyone think these drivers will take a stand on gettin a couple of bucks for delay ??? that is why its hard to organize a company that really needs a union. i dont see that estes is that (needs a union)company as a whole. sure some terminals need union because of tm's or whatever. is all i have to say is keep fighting . fighting always gets alot done. now after all this do you really think estesf8 will EVER vote yes??:hysterical: :smilie_132: . p.s. see i can make a good post:1036316054:
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You got it all wrong! Im part of the TEAMSTERS DRIVE! it stands for Democrats,Republican,Independent<Voter<Education. and i just sent for letters to my local congress and senaters about Mexican trucks and other issues! so we do care unlike your company! who on the west coast has hired many questionable people! to replace the good ones who ran like youR hero &quot;themanager&quot; estesfr8 :butt kiss:has said!: only here to HELP!
 
Robsnightmare said:
You got it all wrong! Im part of the TEAMSTERS DRIVE! it stands for Democrats,Republican,Independent<Voter<Education. and i just sent for letters to my local congress and senaters about Mexican trucks and other issues! so we do care unlike your company! who on the west coast has hired many questionable people! to replace the good ones who ran like youR hero &quot;themanager&quot; estesfr8 :butt kiss:has said!: only here to HELP!
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awsome we need more drivers like you on the streets..:1036316054: i dont have it wrong more dont care than do. and i have 2 hereos the are opie and anthony...:biglaugh: estesfr8 is not one..just a driver(or manager) with an opinion and i did say what has went on out west is a bunch of b.s. it says that in my post:funky:
 
thebeerboy said:
awsome we need more drivers like you on the streets..:1036316054: i dont have it wrong more dont care than do. and i have 2 hereos the are opie and anthony...:biglaugh: estesfr8 is not one..just a driver(or manager) with an opinion and i did say what has went on out west is a bunch of b.s. it says that in my post:funky:
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PLease get out there and vote! your vote counts! we tried to make changes for GOOD! GI took care of there people! no need for help!!Until Estes but just got tired of all the lies!! from the owner!!&quot;ROB&quot;/JR>JOHNSON and yes we care!! say no to Bush and the Mexican Trucks!! but Estes hired lots of drivers who barely speak english!!and espanoil was one of the languages spoken !!
 
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