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Discussion in 'Trucking Accidents' started by Joe the plumber, Nov 25, 2012.

  1. Airbrakes

    Airbrakes Super trucker

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    The point is that it shouldn't take a ticket to get someone to slow the f*** down. There are signs everywhere that note what the speed limit is. You have no excuses. And most of the time they cannot get the truck to stay on all wheels. Accidents at the split due to speeding are all to common.
     
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  2. Airbrakes

    Airbrakes Super trucker

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    All accidents are preventable, or at least 99% of them are. Always remember that in this industry whether or not a accident was your fault doesn't matter. What matters is if there was something that could have been done to prevent it.
     
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  3. Apostolic

    Apostolic Super Moderator Staff Member

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    As a former UPS Freight safety trainer,I learned that other than medical,mechanical & weather related crashes.
    Every other crash is driver error,one or more either sleepy,or not focused on what they were doing.
     
  4. Airbrakes

    Airbrakes Super trucker

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    I agree with you, for the most part. Even some mechanical, medical and weather related crashes can be avoided by not driving in the first place, which is my point in some of the other threads.
     
  5. Apostolic

    Apostolic Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Thats so true Airbrakes.
    One of my favorite pieces of advice I was always preaching at UPS Freight.
    Which is don't matter what the dispatcher says.
    Do not drive beyond your own judgment of what you feel is safe for you.
    Any negative action is on you,who holds the CDL,not the guy sitting at the desk.
     
  6. Airbrakes

    Airbrakes Super trucker

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    If you cannot see the vehicle in front of you while trying to maintain a safe following distance, it's time to call it a day and look for a safe haven to park until the weather gets better. When I trained at England and when I trained at DHL, this is what I taught and stressed to my students. Never drive beyond your ability to safely stop. There is just too many factors at play to leave something like that to chance.
     
  7. Apostolic

    Apostolic Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Oh my Airbrakes you got me on a roll.
    Seeing I did all of my driving in upstate NY in some wicked winter seasons.
    Which I don't miss.

    However here is another one of my famous sayings.
    The faster it snows the slower I goes!

    And it takes a lot less time driving,or not driving according to weather conditions.
    Then it does waiting for a wrecker,making out the crash report & in some cases looking for another line of work.
     
  8. Airbrakes

    Airbrakes Super trucker

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    Name the area, time of year and weather condition and I've driven through it on multiple occasions. I'm proud to say that I've driven over 1 million miles (and still counting) accident free. And it's not left to luck either. I'm accident free because I respect mother nature and local traffic laws.

    *edit*

    Respecting the equipment helps also. As long as you always maintain that level of respect for those 3 items, you won't have a accident.
     
  9. Apostolic

    Apostolic Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Well keep up the good work Airbrakes if everyone had your attitude,this forum wouldn't be on this message board.
     
  10. Joe the plumber

    Joe the plumber Banned

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    Like do your proper trip plan, stay updated on the weather channel, know what lurks ahead.
     
  11. Airbrakes

    Airbrakes Super trucker

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    I sense sarcasm, but this is what I'm stressing. There are more sources other than the weather channel. If you have a laptop and access to wifi in your truck, weather defender is currently the best source to use.
     
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    Guardrail Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I have a line on a dew point detector. I hear they are illegal in Illinois though. Seems they have dew point detector detectors.
     
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    I think dupont makes a dew-point detector!! What`s your vector, Victor? Whats your clearence, Clarence?:woot2:
     
  14. Joe the plumber

    Joe the plumber Banned

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    To tell you the truth AB. I had my share of driving in snow, fog, sleet and ice. I was lucky I never lost it. But when I needed a wrecker to pull me out on a stormy day I got a letter for my troubles so I booked of on snow storms. Tomorrow is another day you know what I mean?
     
  15. Cerberus_Kelpie

    Cerberus_Kelpie Wings Over the World!

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    One day (Sunday) in latter '09, i was driving a Combo (Day Cab and 53') up (Nth) Rt. 29 in Virginia (approaching Charlottesville) and the WEATHER had been horrible whereupon I was doing a mere 15-25 mph. Took 3.5 hours to travel what normally took about 1 1/2. Apparently Charlottesville doesn't know what SALT is for other than seasoning.
    There were Combos and other vehicles stuck in the ICE as well jackknifed in the median.
    There was one FedEx combo that was travelling the same direction in, what seemed to me, rather slow as the road was ICE chopped (few spots where the road was visible and worse than a washboard) and I mentioned "That's the slowest FedEx truck I've ever seen" whereupon it sped up and wasn't again seen.
    Southbound side was equivalent in wrecks.
    Went through again Monday and one truck with driver had been stuck since Friday on southbound and awaiting a Hooker (wrecker, tow truck).

    Guess if I had a WEATHER (i.e., Snow, Ice, Fog, etc.) DETECTOR I could have taken a alternate route which may or not have been better.
     
  16. Airbrakes

    Airbrakes Super trucker

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    I had my share of that as well. Can't count how many times I saved the truck from a jacknife.

    *and before someone says it*

    black ice =/= fog =/= snow =/= rain =/= any other extreeme that reduces visibility
     
  17. Joe the plumber

    Joe the plumber Banned

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    Reduced visibility is one thing..zero visibility is another, thus you are screwed in extreme dense fog but the responsibly is still yours may I add
     
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    Airbrakes Super trucker

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    Yes, I completely agree. Responsibility is always yours regardless of what the weather is doing. After all, it was your call to drive in those conditions.
     
  19. Airbrakes

    Airbrakes Super trucker

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    *update*

    Here's a shocker for you guys:

    On my way from the DC to the MPA. A Fedex Ground truck was westbound on I-70, ACTUALLY DRIVING SLOWER THAN THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT OF 55mph!!! Not only that, he flashed me over to merge when I passed him.

    *marking this on my calander*
     
  20. rodedawg

    rodedawg Dockworker with a CDL

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    If you would have hollered at him on the radio, he probably would have answered you in English.:1036316054::LMAO:
     

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