PRESIDENT Trump to make decision on DACA

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  1. Keepingon

    Keepingon Well-Known Member

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    President Trump will have a decision on what will be done with "Dreamers" under the DACA program on Tuesday.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-daca-decision-coming-today-weekend/story?id=49545914

    ""They shouldn't be very worried," said Trump of dreamers in an interview shortly after his inauguration in January with ABC News' David Muir. "I do have a big heart. We're going to take care of everybody."

    What's your opinion? I think if we can verify that these people who were brought here as children by no choice of there own, Are working, have committed no other crimes, have not been milking the system and can speak English or are willing to learn English they should be put on a path to citizenship. But make it known any brought here illegally going forward will be deported.
     
  2. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash Piss on our Flag, get a boycott against you.

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    Although that is a form of amnesty, I could still go along with it. But the criminals need to be thrown out. I would also be in support of letting those that are here, stay if they have a clean record, but also cut back on the work visas and cut back on those who we allow to become citizens annually. That would seem like a fair enough negotiation, where both sides can claim victory.
     
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  3. Keepingon

    Keepingon Well-Known Member

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    I also think by doing this Trump can help his party in the 2018 midterms.
     
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  4. ABFer

    ABFer Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Sounds good, can we micro-chip them for future identification?
     
  5. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash Piss on our Flag, get a boycott against you.

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    I agree, but there are some other issues where "the party" needs to help themselves, or they will be losing power either way.
    McConnell and Ryan are too stupid to come in out of the rain.
     
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  6. Bubba74

    Bubba74 Well-Known Member

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    Barry went around congress to pass a law
     
  7. AzPilot

    AzPilot Well-Known Member

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    Tough decision between doing what is right or appeasing his rabid supporters.
     
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  8. Keepingon

    Keepingon Well-Known Member

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    They are reporting now, ( but it's from UN named sources ) that he is going to give them 6 months and ask Congress to propose a bill to become law by then. I'm guessing that means he will try to appease both sides? Put it in hands of Congress, they let them stay he can say Congress did it ? I think some if his supporters that wanted DACA gone had a problem with it being done by executive order.
     
  9. AzPilot

    AzPilot Well-Known Member

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    Hope you are right, this is the story we got today.

    http://www.azfamily.com/story/36282313/report-trump-decides-to-end-daca-could-cost-thousands-of-jobs
     
  10. pilot87

    pilot87 Well-Known Member

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    On that point, I concur!
     
  11. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash Piss on our Flag, get a boycott against you.

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    Having people in our country that are not citizens is not doing "what's right", it's called law breaking, and it needs to end. As long as they kick out the criminals in that group, along with slowing the visas, and cut back on the annual citizenships granted, I'd be willing to agree to letting them stay if they have a clean record. We can not just give blanket amnesty to people who violated the law. That's rewarding bad behavior.
    And don't tell me that these people were kids at the time, I don't care, they are still here illegally and they can blame their parents for bringing them here illegally.
     
  12. AzPilot

    AzPilot Well-Known Member

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    Number one requirement to be a true conservative................lack of empathy.
     
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  13. Bubba74

    Bubba74 Well-Known Member

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    Number one requirement of a liberal.............................. lack of brains

    Barry the "great Constitutional scholar" did this knowing full well he did not have the power to do this



    now someone is trying to actually make it legal by forcing congress to actually make a law not an executive fiat to deal with the problem
    If people want to be pissed, be pissed at Barry
    he is the one that brought us to this point
     
  14. ABFer

    ABFer Super Moderator Staff Member

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    We can't bail the world out, we have laws and should abide by them. If anyone should get blamed it's the parents who did what they did to start with.
     
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  15. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    2013 The Senate came up with a bill but the house let it die
    so Obama did something.
    Do you think this time Congress will act?
     
  16. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook

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    Obama acted beyond his authority. The only reason Trump is taking action is that the case was supposed to be filed in court tomorrow. The court would have ended DACA almost immediately. It's Unconstitutional.

    Congress should do nothing. Laws are already on the books. Enforce the laws.
     
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  17. Bubba74

    Bubba74 Well-Known Member

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    the president does not make law which in this case Barry did, so DACA is illegal
    the senates plan did not pass, just because you don't get your way does not mean you can completely circumvent the process which Barry did
    Barry lied to these people, he is the villain here
     
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    We are talking about laws. Justice is SUPPOSED to be Blind, and leave Empathy out of it.
     
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    Dimms lose election after election,and still think they should run everything.
     
  20. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook

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    In 2017, the House came up with a bill to repeal Ocare. The Senate let it die. So, by your reasoning, Trump should end Ocare by Exec Order? You'd support him doing that, correct?
     
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