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Serene Gene said:
I think you're guessing, without any rational basis for it. It's just a good line to use for organizing because no one likes the cameras.



I am serious. You guys spend all this time and energy fighting off the stereotype that the union protects slackers, only to come in here complaining about how unfair it is to be held to the very lowest bar of professional driving by standards that have been around since Con-way. You're undercutting your own message when you do that.
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I think is a reasonable "guess" based on the recent behavior of this company.

A slacker would never be guilty of driving too close as his slacker philosophy would cause him to drive so slowly as to never be within 4 seconds of anyone. I've had supervisors tell me to be aggressive out there...but be safe. How do you use aggressive and safe in the same sentence. This companies philosophy has never caused me to believe that they really care about anything but the bottom line. I want to be protected from receiving a frivolous LOI for trying to adhere to the companies policy.
 
LTLIndentured said:
That statement is why he needs representation. Having your statements about representation misrepresented by one who represents the corporate interests causes one to seek representation from a third party who represents its own interests as well as yours. Have fun unraveling that
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Ummm wut !

I see where you are coming from here. And that is a valid thought path, for sure.
 
Hollywoodz said:
I think is a reasonable "guess" based on the recent behavior of this company.

A slacker would never be guilty of driving too close as his slacker philosophy would cause him to drive so slowly as to never be within 4 seconds of anyone. I've had supervisors tell me to be aggressive out there...but be safe. How do you use aggressive and safe in the same sentence. This companies philosophy has never caused me to believe that they really care about anything but the bottom line. I want to be protected from receiving a frivolous LOI for trying to adhere to the companies policy.
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I don't know. But when I am on the clock I let everyone in. Eventually someone stops and waves or blinks me forward. Being safe and cautious and even a little courteous can make a few extra dollars a week to boot.
 
If Xpo was a fair and reasonable company that "TRULY" valued it's employees the poll here in another topic wouldn't reflect that people are overwhelmingly not impressed . They wouldn't have people seeking union representation to protect what they have.

Some here would have you believe that the company is always above the fringe and practices moral virtuosity all the time and your co-workers are the real problem . Simply the company has no choice and their hands are forced with no other options. I think that is disingenuous and undermines the intelligence of those who post here.

No one promotes protecting poor workers who perform badly and put themselves or others in harms way. The current discipline process that's in affect with Xpo is subject to abuse by poor managers or others that have intent. It has heavy bias in favor of management without recourse . A union contract could help in this area with panel and arbitration process and the fact it would keep poor managers in check by thinking twice about administering petty discipline.

At XPH we had 14 drivers terminated in a 2 month period the year prior to voting the union in. Think about that 14. Crazy right?
 
highspeeds said:
I don't know. But when I am on the clock I let everyone in. Eventually someone stops and waves or blinks me forward. Being safe and cautious and even a little courteous can make a few extra dollars a week to boot.
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I can't disagree with this, however, inevitably you will find yourself in a situation where you are forced, by someone else's actions to circumvent company policy. It's these occasions that concern me.
 
sucker666 said:
If Xpo was a fair and reasonable company that "TRULY" valued it's employees the poll here in another topic wouldn't reflect that people are overwhelmingly not impressed . They wouldn't have people seeking union representation to protect what they have.

Some here would have you believe that the company is always above the fringe and practices moral virtuosity all the time and your co-workers are the real problem . Simply the company has no choice and their hands are forced with no other options. I think that is disingenuous and undermines the intelligence of those who post here.

No one promotes protecting poor workers who perform badly and put themselves or others in harms way. The current discipline process that's in affect with Xpo is subject to abuse by poor managers or others that have intent. It has heavy bias in favor of management without recourse . A union contract could help in this area with panel and arbitration process and the fact it would keep poor managers in check by thinking twice about administering petty discipline.

At XPH we had 14 drivers terminated in a 2 month period the year prior to voting the union in. Think about that 14. Crazy right?
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Add the perspective for everyone. 14 out of how many ? How big is your barn ?
 
Hollywoodz said:
Being a dedicated driver, when I'm handed 13 stops at noon, I move as efficiently as I can to try to get them all done.Sometimes, that means being a bit less safe than I would normally and that camera may result in my receiving discipline for trying to do my job. In any event, representation will make certain that the camera is used properly and not as a tool to destroy an otherwise good drivers career.
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Great last part to this post. The company sets unrealistic goals just like your paradox. Productivity vs. Safety. In an extreme situation one cannot have both occur simultaneously. The safety meetings complain about crashes, injuries, and damages and on the other side it's EBITDA. You get 45 minutes of dwell time, it should only take 20 minutes to hook a set, your terminal's lb/hundred weight is too low. Oh and while you're at it, it's 1330 and we need you to make five 1500 closers, but don't, DON'T do something that would set off your spycam.
 
ScotchNeat said:
Great last part to this post. The company sets unrealistic goals just like your paradox. Productivity vs. Safety. In an extreme situation one cannot have both occur simultaneously. The safety meetings complain about crashes, injuries, and damages and on the other side it's EBITDA. You get 45 minutes of dwell time, it should only take 20 minutes to hook a set, your terminal's lb/hundred weight is too low. Oh and while you're at it, it's 1330 and we need you to make five 1500 closers, but don't, DON'T do something that would set off your spycam.
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Well said, Scotch. I dare anyone to get that dwell in 45 minutes and still do a proper pre trip on the way out and do everything expected on the way in. Unrealistic goals are set and yet we're expected to be SAFE. I don't doubt that my supervisors want me to return safely to my family, however, their primary concern is their liability.
 
Hollywoodz said:
Well said, Scotch. I dare anyone to get that dwell in 45 minutes and still do a proper pre trip on the way out and do everything expected on the way in. Unrealistic goals are set and yet we're expected to be SAFE. I don't doubt that my supervisors want me to return safely to my family, however, their primary concern is their liability.
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And not getting an email asking them about why some driver took so long.
 
Hollywoodz said:
Well said, Scotch. I dare anyone to get that dwell in 45 minutes and still do a proper pre trip on the way out and do everything expected on the way in. Unrealistic goals are set and yet we're expected to be SAFE. I don't doubt that my supervisors want me to return safely to my family, however, their primary concern is their liability.
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I have told our local management dwell time for pre and post trip needs to be a minimum of one hour. That won’t be truly enough but I can deal with it. He said he would tell upper. Nothing will change I don’t believe, we’ll see.
 
ole man said:
I have told our local management dwell time for pre and post trip needs to be a minimum of one hour. That won’t be truly enough but I can deal with it. He said he would tell upper. Nothing will change I don’t believe, we’ll see.
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We are given 20 minutes to get our bills checked, pretrip tractor, find delivery trailer hook and pretrip it, check load for unsecured freight and get off the yard.....and they're trying to skin that back.
 
ole man said:
I have told our local management dwell time for pre and post trip needs to be a minimum of one hour. That won’t be truly enough but I can deal with it. He said he would tell upper. Nothing will change I don’t believe, we’ll see.
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Unfortunately Ole Man they (management) could care less about your opinion less than ever they one and only focus is cutting cost and maximizing profit . Management at the level directly above could care less and are disgusted also, so therefore you suggestion usually just gets filed.
 
I think there is still people that struggle to figure whats going on with this company and what the long term game is. It's my opinion that one only has to look at todays wall street and see what is going on there to understand this better. Wall street no longer values sustainable long term growth. It instead is nothing much more than a casino that looks for daily gains on stock price ,driven by companies who give them actions that drive this type of investing ,by feeding them contrived info. Bradley Jacobs has mastered this and the gains that are made benefit him and the gamblers alone.
 
ole man said:
I have told our local management dwell time for pre and post trip needs to be a minimum of one hour. That won’t be truly enough but I can deal with it. He said he would tell upper. Nothing will change I don’t believe, we’ll see.
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Based on how much time I spend at the shop getting things fixed before my linehaul run, there are very few proper pre/post trips getting done.
 
dalesr said:
Based on how much time I spend at the shop getting things fixed before my linehaul run, there are very few proper pre/post trips getting done.
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After inbound was over , a driver was told to hook a set. No problem. His lead had 23,000 lbs. Once he began to put the set together he noticed the lead had NO breaks. Zero. None. Rolled like a marble going downhill. Without airlines attached.

It made it all the way from some distant FAC with no brakes. Zero. With a 23,000 lbs. load. He wrote it up and red-tagged it.
 
icuicp said:
After inbound was over , a driver was told to hook a set. No problem. His lead had 23,000 lbs. Once he began to put the set together he noticed the lead had NO breaks. Zero. None. Rolled like a marble going downhill. Without airlines attached.

It made it all the way from some distant FAC with no brakes. Zero. With a 23,000 lbs. load. He wrote it up and red-tagged it.
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I really don’t hardly know how to respond to your comment. Why did he pull it knowing there were no brakes? Amazing.
 
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