Shut Up and Play

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Bubba74, Aug 27, 2016.

  1. SuperCourse

    SuperCourse Well-Known Member

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    Where's Sammy?
     
  2. SuperCourse

    SuperCourse Well-Known Member

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    Bob Hope, not sure but looks like John Wayne, Ronald Reagan, Dean Martin, and the chairman of the board Frank Sinatra. Nothing like the pretty boy wussies in Hollywood these days.
     
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  3. a9faninnc

    a9faninnc Super Moderator Staff Member

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  4. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash Grocery Shopping. The Meat Department. AD-FREE USER

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    The feel good comments and thinking is normal for the left, but just words......no real commitment is expected.
     
  5. DCM_Doc

    DCM_Doc Well-Known Member

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    In this state stadiums, event centers etc. have been paid for by sales tax increases usually approved by voters. The supporters tell voters how many dollars in revenue the events will bring to the city. If that is so those who benefit can return a portion of their profit to the city. The average citizen will not receive one penny from the events.
     
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  6. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    Is this the Rat Pack?
     
  7. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    Hotels and some restaurants benefit, the rest of us enjoy the added traffic
     
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  8. Bubba74

    Bubba74 Well-Known Member

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    I agree completely

    Looks like Frankie, Dino, Reagan, The Duke, and Bob

    no Sammy, couldn't be the Rat Pack

     
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  9. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash Grocery Shopping. The Meat Department. AD-FREE USER

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    I am completely against tax payers funding stadiums unless it is proven on paper, how that stadium's income will immediately REDUCE the tax base. Those stadiums have become a massive source of income for the already filthy rich owners and league. If they can afford to pay these players 20 million per year, they can also afford to pay for their own stadiums without the tax payer's help. The majority of Americans have no interest or reason to financially support these stadiums, so they should not be obligated to do so. And since the tax payers get no real benefit, the taxes paying for the stadiums needs to end.
     
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  10. jimmy g

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    no Peter Lawford, either.
     
  11. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook AD-FREE USER

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    That was always my take. Until Indy built their first. Since, there have been 30 years of highpaying construction jobs downtown . 8 highrise hotels, dozens of restaurants, three stadiums/arenas, new private museums, a new zoo, private hospitals, and Eli Lily Pharmaceutical expanded and built in the abandoned near Southside. What had been blight is now flourishing. My property taxes dropped 4 years straight. Biz moved to Indiana and the state has a billion dollar rainy day fund.

    Might not work everywhere but it worked here. Probably helped that Peyton Manning played here. He even donated an entire new wing of a Children's Hospital.
     
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  12. DCM_Doc

    DCM_Doc Well-Known Member

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    Some of the arenas in this are were built by out of state investors with local sales taxes. The local restaurants & hotels may have benefited but I don't see property taxes decreasing. Recently a large shopping mall was constructed south of the capitol city. Voters approved a "Temporary" sales tax increase to subsidize a Bass Pro store there. No doubt the store is doing well but other sporting goods stores like Gander Mountain that were not subsidized have lost sales. I am opposed to subsidizing any business without giving the same benefit to any competing business. A business should stand or fall without help from taxpayers.
     
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  14. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash Grocery Shopping. The Meat Department. AD-FREE USER

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    Thanks WoOdY.......my Son and I just laughed our asses off.
     
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  15. Bubba74

    Bubba74 Well-Known Member

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    He was just there so Frank could go hang out with the Kennedy's


    Stadium projects do have some merit
    I just remember the 20 year "Sin Tax" Cleveland put on alcohol and tobacco for 20 years to fund the Cavs and Indians ball parks
    20 years, well its over 20 years and the tax remains
     
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  16. jimmy g

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    Taxes never die. They don't even fade away....
     
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  17. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    OK now we're getting somewhere.
    Raise the tax on the rich while we're at it!
     
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  18. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    Hate to be the bearer of bad news but the property tax's dropped everywhere because the values plummeted.
    But for the past several years they have been on the rebound here.
    In fact higher than they were during the boom in real estate, when a person could have sold their home for much higher prices.
    Whats up with that?
     
  19. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook AD-FREE USER

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    Not in my area. You don't know what you're talking about. The area around downtown Indy is sky high, yet taxes went down. In my county, every time my taxes drop, they raise my appraisal.
     
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  20. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    It's coming, we received the new years tax billing options where they tell you if we pass this your tax will be this amount
    if we pass this budget your tax will be x amount.
    No matter what budget they pass I see a $400 jump in one year
     

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