Sick society

Discussion in 'Politics' started by falconfan, Jan 22, 2018.

  1. pilot87

    pilot87 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you falcanfan.... I appreciate your take on issues and I always appreciate your respectful replies..... Thank you.

    I keep myself busy, I don't always have the time to spend on here.... I've been traveling quite a bit lately.... Currently in Mexico....for the last several months...
    I have administrator duties on another forum in addition to playing tournament chess on a Worldwide chess site.... When I return stateside maybe I'll be able to post more...

    I have a lot of respect for Magoo, he puts up with a lot of crap on here.... Way over the top, in my opinion.... Goes outside of what is necessary to debate a topic....

    Indeed it does...... Other scriptures tell us why that is and what the future outcome will be.... The problems we face today are beyond our being able to "fix" them... An indepth study is really required to fully comprehend the scope of the issues..... All this bickering over Democrats and Republicans are just a symptom of a larger issue....

    I understand why you feel that way, however, if you look at things as only two deminsional, it then would seem logical that the "other side" must be right and good.... In today's world of corrupted political systems the "other side" isn't much better, if at all... The answer lies in being able to see the alternative..... You can see that the way people are today fits to a tee how it was for told thousands of years past..... It's not a stretch to also see how much other information contained in scripture is just as compelling.... Honestly, do you actually see any political resolution to any of humanities problems?.... I don't... Take this forum as an example..... Has any productive discussions on here changed anyone's mind about anything?... No, any one that dares to disagree with the prevailing narrative here is mocked.... So how can we expect anything to be better or different at the top political level?... We can see how that's working... or rather how it's not working...
    It was for told people today would be just as they were in the days of Noah... The book of Matthew tells us about the days of Noah..... People then "took no note". People today are the same.... They are not taking "note"..... Read the account, you will see its just as accurate and compelling as 2nd Timothy...

    As far as religion in our society today is even more varied than politics..... People reject it for a large part..... That's not because of "liberalism".... Or "conservatism"..... It's because people see Christians being not so Christian.... Or any other religious people acting in not so religious behavior..... It's not religion per say, as it's society rejecting God and his son Jesus..... Government, our Government is supposed to not sponsor a state religion.... So yes,that's why you don't see religion in schools........
    God is not "out the window ".... Only if we, as individuals, shut him out of our lives....

    I agree..... I'll add to that, a vote for any politician is a vote against God's standards... The politicians that claim publically their against abortion, gay marriage etc, have been known to be hypocrites as well..... Often they promote policy that is just as unchrist like as those that promote gay marriage for example.....


    Sorry about the long post..... Sometimes a "sound byte" just can't do.....

    Take care Falconfan!
     
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  2. pilot87

    pilot87 Well-Known Member

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    If your so concerned about the hate on here, what are you doing to change it? I only see you add to it...

    I have a lot more to do than be on here every day like you are.... Maybe you need to find a hobby or pick up more hours at work.... Besides, if I'm on your ignore list, how would know how often I'm here or how long I'm gone?.... I think you read my posts, you're just a chicken to reply......

    Not from what I've seen..... Hahaha

    I guess that's why you hide from my posts.... You get tired of being shown how wrong you are.... Lol
     
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  3. troubleman84

    troubleman84 Well-Known Member

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    Nope but your buddy bubba does that’s why he won’t reply.
     
  4. pilot87

    pilot87 Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely agree!

    Thank you!!! ..... That's the idea.....not to "win" some pointless "debate"......just present a perspective from another viewpoint to admonish people to think from a broader, deeper scope..... Nothing more..

    Personally, I feel that whether or not people agree or disagree about it, we will be a World without borders.... There are several reasons why I think that.... Let me mention just one.....
    We are all human beings with the same basic wants and needs..... The planet Earth has all the necessary resources to provide the needs for everyone...

    How many wars have fought for the control of resources?.... How many people have suffered horribly and have died as a result?....

    We have nations that sell and buy needed resources to each other...... There is a high cost to that as well.....

    Logically, it's "built in" human nature to be just one human family, in a manner of speaking, to work towards being unified as one people, one World....

    There is going to be resistance, but the need for humanity to survive will overcome... It is a stronger force..... It will happen inevitably whether people agree or disagree...or want it or not.... People will resist, of course, but it will happen regardless.... Humanities survival demands it.....
    United we survive, divided we will fail... Simple as that..... Our World is divided and inches closer to global warfare, but in spite of that we still see an underlying push towards a one Global society.....

    Then, and only then, can a united worldwide people be able to use the resources for the benefit of all humanity..... Instead of wars and killings... There will be advancements beyond your imagination... Think about how much good can be accomplished with just the money the world spends on military things...

    Globalization is necessary to continued human survival and human advancement..... A divided world will inevitably lead to war and the destruction of humanity as an outcome.....

    Think about that with an open mind for a moment....

    There is also a biblical reason that the World will be united and without borders....
     
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  5. pilot87

    pilot87 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly!.....
     
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  6. pilot87

    pilot87 Well-Known Member

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    You also have more in common with the average blue collar working class Black or white man, than your boy Trump does......
     
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  7. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash They will make you look foolish. AD-FREE USER

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    Heck, I don't even know what you were wanting a response to?:idunno:

    Not my argument, so don't care either.
     
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  8. falconfan

    falconfan Well-Known Member

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    If everyone thought and lived their life like you Pilot, a world without borders would be delightful. The sad reality though, is that it's an impossible pipe dream with mankind.
    Look how forced immigration is working in Europe. Who would govern the people?

    Let’s take Europe for example,because they are practicing open borders.London, Germany,Switzerland have all become shitholes with Sharia no go zones,with increased rapes and murders, not just there, but everywhere they have forced immigration.I don’t want those types of policies here.To be frank,if you took the doctrine of Islam out of the equation it would certainly be a much better transition.

    Why do you think we need globalization to survive?We have the means to transport food,medicine,money and anything else needed without countries losing their culture.
    N.Korea,China,Cuba,and Russia will probably have a big problem giving up their power and the way they govern.Only JESUS will bring us to a world without borders IMO.
     
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  9. falconfan

    falconfan Well-Known Member

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    I guess when something so sickening happens that we should know about I'll refer back to this thread.
    A Man killed a Chicago cop execution style and gets applauded and cheered by the masses of inmates.
    These are the people we are up against in our society.
    WATCH: Chicago Inmates Applaud Man Suspected Of Executing Police Commander
    Sick.
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    Screenshot/Cook County Sheriff's Office

    ByEMILY ZANOTTI
    February 18, 2018
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    A horrifying video has emerged from Chicago, showing inmates at a Cook County jail facility cheering a man who, last week, allegedly shot and killed a Chicago police commander execution style, leaving the officer dead


    https://www.dailywire.com/news/27278/watch-chicago-inmates-applaud-man-suspected-emily-zanotti
     
  10. troubleman84

    troubleman84 Well-Known Member

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    He’s gonna have a short painful sentence in the chair.
     
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  11. falconfan

    falconfan Well-Known Member

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    I couldn't even cheer watching Saddam Hussein getting hung.Man killing man is nothing to celebrate even if they deserve it.
     
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  12. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash They will make you look foolish. AD-FREE USER

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    Ya, in twenty years or so.
     
  13. pilot87

    pilot87 Well-Known Member

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    Hey Falconfan!

    Thank you for your kind words expressed above.... That means a lot to me.....
    Sorry about not posting a reply sooner... I was experiencing difficulties with logging on for awhile.... Thanks to Jeff for patiently helping to solve the issue..... However, in the meantime, I needed to do some traveling to areas with spotty coverage and mostly none........
    I know this thread and our conversation is now "old", but you raised some interesting issues and questions to my last reply that deserve a reply, late as it might be....

    Here goes!

    I agree..... As far as mankind is in charge of governing themselves, it will probably never happen before we would destroy ourselves and the only "home" we have in our vast universe.... Even though it's a natural "instinct" to move in that direction.... There is plenty of hate and greed that prevents that from fully occurring at this time period..

    In a Global society, there would be no reason for immigration, forced, or otherwise.....

    "Who would Govern the people?"

    Good question...... From the standpoint of a divided World with many Nations, each one autonomous from the other, it would be impossible for political rulers to set up a world wide government..... But a One world Government and a United Global human society is essential to humanities survival for the long-term.... Since it's obvious to anyone that is looking, our currently divided Globe just careens from one war, or crisis to another, we will eventually destroy ourselves in one form or fashion.... We must look to the only other alternative, which brings us back to what was written thousands of years ago. The scriptures do provide the answer.... Just as we both agree and see exactly how accurate 2nd Timothy describes how people would be in this time period refereed to as the "last days"....... In Jeremiah 10:23 it states " O Lord, I know that the way of man is not in himself; it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps."
    (From the commonly used King James)

    So how will a one World Government work then?
    The Bible tells about a “new heavens” and “a new earth.”(Isaiah 65:17and 2nd Peter 3:13)
    The current “heavens” is made up of today’s human governments, but Jesus Christ and those who rule with him in heaven will make up the “new heavens.”..........
    So what, then, is the “new earth”? The new earth will be good people who love God
    The present world of wicked people not be here, nor in power... Remember, the Flood of Noah’s day wiped out a wicked world.... And as it says in Mathew, today would be just as it was in Noah's day..... So too, today's corrupt people and political systems will also be destroyed at, what we've all heard of, that being Armageddon.... That will wipe out and end the failed and corrupted human attempt at self rule and usher in that "new Earth".... Obviously, the Earth will not be destroyed, just the corrupt elements of Human rule....

    To the uninitiated, or people unfamiliar with scripture, that all sounds to good to be true.... We all have heard and probably recited the Lord's prayer..... Just think about that.... What are we praying for in the Lord's prayer and what does it mean to us?...


    Yes, exactly...... Just as the point I made in my above remarks..... The question for each of us is do we want to be a part of that "new Earth", God's new system of perfect rulership, or remain in the current corrupt political systems that have no solutions and are only headed for destruction, and subsequently be destroyed along with it..... It's a choise.... Just look at the divisines of the political discussions on here.... Doesn't show much promise to overcoming the issues does it..... It only deepens the rift......
     
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  14. falconfan

    falconfan Well-Known Member

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    Hope you had fun on your travels.Sounds like you are enjoying life.
    Greed,power and political differences ( communist,socialist capitalists and dictators) certainly make a world without borders difficult.

    For me the single biggest obstacle that makes it impossible is Islam.With over 1.5 billion muslims ( people that follow Islam) on the planet that are totally intolerant to the beliefs of others...globalism is impossible unless we all convert.

    Just read today where Pakistan just freed 20 suspected of burning Christains alive in a kiln
    for blasphemy.A couple of weeks ago boco haram burnt down 15 Christains villages and brutally slaughtered many of the Christains.These kinds of atrocities are an everyday occurrence throughout the Muslim world.
     
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  15. pilot87

    pilot87 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you, and "yes" to both!

    In today's world of corrupted Worldwide political systems it is an inpossibilty, but in spite of that, we can still see evidence of that natural tendency, as a whole, to move in that direction....
    It will only become a reality under that "new Earth" I mentioned in my previous post....... The new Earth that is spoken of in scripture....
    I totally understand, we all have our own obstacles to conquer...... We have myriads of distracions to deflect our attention......

    It's not really about Muslims being the reason for the problems totally.... If it wasn't Muslims, it would be something else..... However, you make a very valid point.... A one human family enjoying a United Global society would require that everyone is of one belief and have a shared sense of family..... So in today's current circumstances, that is all but impossible... But the scripture points to a time in which all of humanity will be of one belief..... Recall I mentioned the book of Mathew, where it compares the days of Noah to our own period of time we live in..... Noah and his Family warned the Earth's inhabitants of the coming global flood..... They has every opportunity to escape as did Noah, but they took no note.... So today it's the same.... The scriptures warn of a coming global destruction of the current political systems and all the people that follow them as their hope..... And the system of false Christians..... It will bring in the "New Earth"....a global society of all like minded people....

    It is a rather deep subject that is difficult to explain in a short post here, but there is a reason why things are the way they are and what the solution is... It's not about Democrats and Republicans or Muslims... Each are contributing factors..... The lords prayer gives insights..... The words "Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on EARTH as it is in heaven"..... What happened in heaven is key to understanding what's in store for the Earth..

    Those are horrible atrocities..... Won't it be nice when those things won't happen anymore??

    Democrats or Republicans, or any of the Governments today, offer no solutions..... There is only one alternative to that....... Think about my friend!...
     
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