Discussion in 'Politics' started by a9faninnc, Nov 14, 2014.
Bubba please excuse this intruder into my response to your post about FDR interring people
Your assumptions and twisting of our posts is getting really old. You either do it on purpose to stir the pot of you are incompetent. The jury is still out. But it's getting old constantly defending our posts that you spin away from the actual words written.
Then explain why you said we are cutting military aid to Israel when I clearly showed we are not.
Your spin and dodge technique is getting old too.
Incompetent is saying something that is false.
Either you cannot read, or can only recite what you hear.
Gee sounds like a "generalization"
Really, are you so sure that if a Rep would have won in 1940, that they would have done to Japan what FDR did to essentially force Japan to attack us?
FDR's policies had failed. We were not coming out of the depression. FDR needed the war, he needed to get into the fight to fix the economy.
Most people born in Germany supported the Kaiser in his war with Russia and France. After the USA declared war there was still a minority that supported Germany (assimulation what a unique concept) . Yes, Germans were persecuted and rounded up just like Japanese during WWII. What is it with leftist politicians completely ignoring the civil rights of American citizens.
I thought the Reps were the "s" remind me again what Rep President rounded up American citizens and put them into concentration camps?
a few advisors and some military aid is not the full blown support (what was it 500,000 troops) that JFK and LBJ gave them. Gave them after France figured it was a lost cause and abandoned the place.
don't forget their staunch 6 week defense of their country.
The Yugoslavian partisans actually did a better job of tying down German forces than the French "resistance." Every here of Vichy France? their politicians joined the Germans
Our ally, the one that left NATO, that refused to let us use their airspace, with friends like that.......
War was already going on for 3 years during WWI and two years during WWII, something that is already happening is not inevitable.
Our involvement in your mind might have to have been inevitable, but in the case of WWI we did not have to join. A policy of isolationism might have kept us out of WWII as well.
If it was all about communism., then we should have listened to Patton, make peace with the Germans, ally with them then fight it out right there in Europe in 1945
We were mobilized, could have attacked from two sides actually three if you bring Turkey aboard.
Ohh .. that hurts my feelings.
The girls club will convene later at tea time.
do something to earn my respect. Of which he has done nothing
The left is all about civil rights
Hey, how many Rep governors blocked the school house doors?
Hey, how many Rep sheriffs released the dogs on marchers or attacked them with hoses?
Hey, how many Rep Presidents had citizens rounded up and placed in prison camps?
No, not sure and neither are you.
Please enlighten us and describe how FDR needed war with Japan and forced the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor.
Most, not all.
My grandparents did not. That is why they left.
Remind me again ... were we at war with those countries and should we have trusted everyone ?
Do you trust every muslim you see today ?
Does that mean you feel LBJ was a poor President ?
We were already there, should we have abandoned everything after spending billions during the 1950's ?
I guess the French are really lovers and got us to do the fighting.
The US and it's allies prevailed, isn't that all that mattered ?
You talk isolationism now, but isn't that what we are doing with Iran ?
The great war machine is how the wealthy continues to add to their stockpiles of money.
Just ask Cheney.
Germany was in ruin at the end of the war.
We bombed them into submission and destroyed any chance of them mounting any type of effort to defeat communism.
Allied with them ?
It was all the average German could do to survive after the war.
Fighting was no longer an option.
The folks wearing the foil hats would say to simply claim our Sovereignty thereby not paying federal and state taxes, giving up our Driver License, as well ANY CHANCE of getting state aid for medical needs, health insurance, other beneficial items and living the illusion of free while dodging everything else and constantly looking over our shoulders as well having to keep changing our location/address.
I have been expecting anti-Social IN-security for decades, so nowadays what them fettered feral buffoons accomplish in the District of Criminals is of no surprise.
Just the treatment of returning Soldiers is reason enough to address the government of our grievances through whatever means are needed, yet such resembles that of a Revolution and of many lives lost...rather like another war within a war.
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Thanks for Your Time.
FDR's economic policies had failed despite all the spending America was not much better off,
"We are spending more money than we have ever spent before, and it does not work. After eight years we have just as much unemployment as when we started, and an enormous debt to boot. - U.S. Secretary Henry Morgenthau. . . May 1939."
Wars put people to work building armaments, drafting soldiers , etc....
However the isolationist congress would have none off it.
So, FDR stopped steel sales to Japan, interfered with oil sales to Japan, stationed most of our fleet in the Pacific and demanded that Japan pull out of China. Yes, FDR forced Japan to attack us.
The Germans in WWI, no idea
Korea and Vietnam, the story was the "Domino Effect"
on Vietnam yes
On Civil Rights no
sometimes you need to cut your loses and walk away. The couple of billion spent in the 50's would pale in comparison to the tens of billions and tens of thousands of lives in the 1960's
WWII Europe essentially ended in Feb. of 1943
When the German 6th Army was destroyed at Stalingrad, the Germans had lost
Iraq was done, Barry pulled out all they had to do was wait, and spring into action. It never should have come to this
German production hit its height in 1944, most industry had moved underground
You cannot bomb a nation into submission
as for the fighting power of the Wehrmacht
260 Divisions still in the field in April of 1945, under strengthed, yes by about 1/3 so that is still more full divisions than they began the war with.
Plus, they were all facing the right way, the Western allies no longer advanced once they reached there occupation zones. Ike refused to battle for Berlin just to turn it over to the Russians.
When Von Staffenburg tried to kill Hitler, he wanted to surrender all of Germany to the USA so Russia would not share in the spoils. The heavy leg of Hitlers oak table ruined things... Rommel was blamed...
Bubba, LBJ was a horrible Civil Rights Prez. He blocked the 1957 Civil Rights Act as Senate Majority Leader. He signed the exact bill into law in 65, not because he wanted the law, but because he wanted the black vote. He supposedly said on AFOne , ' we'll have the (n-word) vote for the next hundred years now. Prior to that, most blacks voted Repub. The South that turned dogs and firehoses on blacks were Dems, as you've noted. Bull Conner, George Wallace, etal, were Dems.
It was good that he signed it, but his motives were only political. He was a ...
Most of their motives are political
signing it was about the only thing decent about his presidency, that and "I will not run"
don't even want to get in about how he ruined the black family and basically cast them into poverty for generations., but he was right they vote Dem without fail