The darndest thing just happned

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Magoo, Nov 23, 2016.

  1. a9faninnc

    a9faninnc Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Deficits were once considered unpatriotic,but that was when a Repub was the president.Now they are treated as some kind of revolving credit line...Doubling the deficit in 8 years,printing money that cant be backed up,and keeping interest rates artificially low because of the stagnant economy is not economic growth.Its failure.
     
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  2. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook

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    Deficits come from Washington Base Line Budgeting. The Carter Budget plus 7% has always been used as the Base, so, anything less than 7% growth is a deficit. Cutting taxes is Not a cut in Budgeting- except in DCGrad. It Always produces more revenue to the Treasury, but accounts don't understand Dynamic Growth, just Static Growth.

    End Baseline Budgeting. Return to REAL Budgets. End Taxing Income. Go Fair Tax!
     
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  3. DCM_Doc

    DCM_Doc Well-Known Member

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    That ultimately cost Hitlery the election. Many Bernie supporters voted for Trump because of the "Super Delegates" move by the DNC.
     
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  4. johndeere4020

    johndeere4020 Well-Known Member

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    That doesn't make any sense, what do you mean by "

    Whether the "majority" likes it or not the electoral college is the law of the land and the objective, the popular vote is irrelevant.

    I'm not sure the rest of the nation wants to "modernize" do you have any evidence to back this up? I personally don't care what someone does in their bedroom. I however am sick of what should be between two people in they're bedroom being crammed down our throats and the government deciding who's rights are more important. and I certainly don't care what a woman does to her body, I do care what they do to an innocent body growing inside.

    I'm also not interested in the wealth equality nonsense.
     
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  5. falconfan

    falconfan Well-Known Member

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    I'm glad Hilary ran...I think Bernie would have done better.
     
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  6. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    Here's what I mean Hillary is 2.2 million votes ahead of Rump.
    I don't care for the system the owners put in to keep control.
    One person one vote is how I see it, unless the electoral college was trying to keep out a dangerous person from leadership.
    But hey will they on December 19th?

    You are anti abortion that puts you in the telling woman what to do with their bodies group.
    A lot of the same people were against a womans health insurance providing birth control.
    Yet those same people don't rail about Viagra and the other like products being paid by insurance drug coverage.
     
  7. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    If you remember back when Clinton was leaving office he had a surplus going.
    George and then Al discussed what to do with it.George won he said you paid too much taxs and proceeded to give rebates and lowere the tax rate.( mostly for the rich) There went the surplus Clinton and the Republican Congress made.
    Then of course he borrowed for two wars.

    Trumps cutting of tax's will again lower the revenue coming into the coffers making a larger deficit.

    Yeah they sell us that business it brings in more money sure it does and trickle down is good for us too.:438:
     
  8. Rastus

    Rastus ......Deplorable.....

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    Clinton did so well because of Reagan/Bush presidencies set him up for success.
     
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  9. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash Piss on our Flag, get a boycott against you.

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    The electoral vote argument is foolish. If Trump wanted individual votes he would have went to places like California and got some. But since popular vote doesn't get you in the White House he didn't bother going there because he couldn't get their electoral votes anyway, so why bother going.
    It would have been a completely different strategy if it was popular vote that matters.
    Point being, the entire argument is a waste.
     
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  10. johndeere4020

    johndeere4020 Well-Known Member

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    The popular vote is irrelevant period, it wasn't the goal and Hillary knew that, it's not a hard concept. I have no problem with a women's body be hers, but I've yet to hear one rational argument from a lefty about how killing a small human is a woman's body issue. You're right I don't think we should pay for birth control but I also don't think we should pay for viagra, I'm consistent. Pregnancy and birth control are one hundred percent preventable and unnecessary, abstinence works every time it's tried. One of the problems with health care has always been you guys want it to pay for EVERYTHING and be cheap. It's just like the pre existing conditions thing that even Trump doesn't seem to understand, I'm sure you think it's a great idea but its unsustainable. You guys rail against the rich and powerful bringing us down all the while the entitlement crowd is doing a way better job of it.
     
  11. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook

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    Mags: It IS One Person, One Vote, IN THE STATE VOTE. Those are then used to pick Representative Electors, as per our Constitution, since we are a Constitutional Republic, and NOT a Democracy....
     
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  12. Concrete Cowboy

    Concrete Cowboy Active Member

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    Clinton left office with 5 trillion dollars in national debt, Bush left office with 10 trillion dollars in national debt and it looks like Obama will leave office with 20 trillion dollars in national debt. Seems to be a trend and I bet Hillary would come closer to doubling that than Trump would.
     
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  13. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    You mean NAFTA
     
  14. SuperCourse

    SuperCourse WHO IS JOHN GALT?

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    And then Newt Gingrich did the rest.
     
  15. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    It seems acceptable to you maybe because it Was George Bush jr and now Trump who won. Maybe you wouldn't like it if Bernie Sandes won.

    It has happened now four times in our nation’s history prior to Rumps
    http://www.history.com/topics/us-presidents/presidential-election-facts

    • In 1824 Andrew Jackson won the popular vote but got less than 50 percent of the electoral votes. John Quincy Adams became the next president when he was picked by the House of Representatives.
    • In 1876 Samuel Tilden won the popular vote but lost the election when Rutherford B. Hayes got 185 electoral votes to Tilden’s 184.
    • In 1888 Grover Cleveland won the popular vote but lost the election when Benjamin Harrison got 233 electoral votes to Cleveland’s 168.
    • In 2000 Al Gore won the popular vote but lost the election to George Bush. In the most highly contested election in modern history, the U.S. Supreme Court stopped the Florida recount of ballots, giving Bush the state’s 25 electoral votes for a total of 271 to Gore’s 255.
     
  16. Rastus

    Rastus ......Deplorable.....

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    Next time try and find a candidate who is NOT under 3 FBI investigations. :lmao:
     
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  17. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook

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    It's acceptable to me because it's Constitutional. Nothing more, nothing less.
     
  18. SuperCourse

    SuperCourse WHO IS JOHN GALT?

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    :guiness:
     
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  19. johndeere4020

    johndeere4020 Well-Known Member

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    Nope, this is hard for you to believe but we are not hypocrites the electoral college is the goal and we'll live with the results. Do you remember any republicans protesting in 08 or 12? Nope. It doesn't matter Trump would have won the popular vote or not, you're sore losers period.

    The rest of this is irrelevant.
     
  20. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash Piss on our Flag, get a boycott against you.

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    When the left wins they love the rules, when they lose, suddenly they want to tear them up. Magoo knows the rules, he's just whining like a beeoootch good little lib.
     
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