The 'Never-Trump' Pouters

Discussion in 'Politics' started by slavenomore, May 9, 2016.

  1. a9faninnc

    a9faninnc Super Moderator Staff Member

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    The part about riots at his rallies is just a losers cry that usually comes from Democrats.Its not even worth acknowledging,imo..It,s a bottom of the barrel reach.
     
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  2. johndeere4020

    johndeere4020 Well-Known Member

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    No slave, we're 20 trillion in debt because of spending money on things we didn't need with money we didn't have. The government spends to much trying to be everything to everybody. Free trade is part of the answer, tariffs are not they don't work never have never will. But before we can fix the problem we have admit we have one, that is something Washington is unwilling to do.
     
  3. ABFer

    ABFer Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Really now?
     
  4. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    I know YOU make money building facilities for the banks to replace the facilities wbich paid good money.....but theirs more taking losses on thag deal than gaining. Those entitlements are used to keep people from.violence.
    Your ways dont work. You aint never gonna win competing wwith .65/hour....you gotta be nuts to think you can.
    The only way to compete with socializts, communists and 3rd worlders is to become that....And we are becoming that.
    The people you follow dont want us to win they want us to go down so we too can work for nothing. They wannt to rule the world and you let them.
    Soon your vote will be counted with Mexicans votes as a North American union if you continue followinv globalists.
     
  5. johndeere4020

    johndeere4020 Well-Known Member

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    YOU have no idea what I do. When I have more time I'll address this nonsense.
     
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  6. jimmy g

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    Slave, there was this guy a long time ago who said (paraphrased, by me) If you ain't with The Father, you're agin Him.

    That eliminates about 99.9999% of the world, my Man.

    Just sayin...
     
  7. Bubba74

    Bubba74 Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you except for the trying to be everything to everyone
    The rich benefit
    the poor benefit
    the middle class gets squeezed and forced to pay for it
    only the schmucks in the middle class think they are getting taken care of
     
  8. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    Time to address JD.

    Tell us how an American business and employee can compete with $1/hour, and Bengal allowed to pollute air and water, hire children, force 12 hour days 7 days/ week, have your employees homes /food/healthcare paid by your commie/socialist government if its provided at all...........without going down to that level?
     
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  9. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    johndeere4020 Well-Known Member

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    I will I will I haven't forgot just kinda busy.
     
  11. a9faninnc

    a9faninnc Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Establishment dilemma...lol
     
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  12. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    No problem. We can wait.
    They've been asking those questions since the 70's...........they don't really answer it.. instead they send in lying propagandists like Milton Friedman, label the shysters "experts" that tell us it don't matter if we make silicon chips or potato chips...it's irrelevant.
    And they keep sneaking the jobs out the back door.
     
  13. jimmy g

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    So... people try to say (erroneously ) if I refuse to vote Trump I'm actually voting for Hillary.

    Here's my solution: I'll refuse to vote for Hillary instead. Those same people can then say (erroneously) I'm voting for Trump!

    :1sm364jumpbed::1sm057crazy::rulz:
     
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  14. johndeere4020

    johndeere4020 Well-Known Member

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    Ok slave I'm here, OK lets start with a few basics. First as I said before you have no idea what I do or what the primary scope of my companies business is ,so for you to make the statement "YOU make money building facilities for the banks to replace the facilities which paid good money" is asinine on its face. Second and more importantly, to say "your ways don't work" is also asinine. We haven't tried it "my way" which is the conservative, limited government, personally responsible way. We've had generations of entitlement big spending over regulated bureaucratic nonsense. The party that your union (and mine for that matter) support and has for years has given this country to the lowest common denominator and asked for nothing in return except for the productive to pay for it. People shouldn't need entitlements to stay out of trouble, they need to exercise personal responsibility. The democrat part has been social engineering for years, they decentivized the father in the home which destroyed the nuclear family particularly in the inner cities and among minorities. Made multiple children profitable, created a wheres mine I deserve it mentality. They have held them to a lower standard for years and made it easy to remain that way. You think your way works look at any inner city in America, they have mostly if not all been ran by democrats and are on average far worse off than the suburbs and rural areas. To the next part of your post, we don't need to compete with $0.65 an hour, there are many place in the world that make pennies on the dollar I don't deny that but its not the majority. The pay is only part of the equation, there's a significant cost to importing and dealing with the other related logistics involved with off shore production not to mention quality control issues. But the democrat party and to a large extent the republican party just from their lack of opposition have made it very unfriendly to do business in this country, then they can't figure out why the leave. The taxes are ridiculous, the EPA and their stupid overreaching mandates chasing the myth of man made global warming. This class envy crap that you are a great example of, stupid artificially inflated health care costs. No certainty in anything, as soon as you make a plan the government comes along and changes things. The FACT is we've been doing it YOUR way for about 70 years and look where its gotten us. At this point the only solution I see is for it to all come apart at the seems, until it gets real bad people aren't going to wake up. Unfortunately its going to be a rough ride and I don't look forward to it. A friend of mine has said for a long time, when the entitlement crowd out numbers us its over. In 2012 Romney was actually right on with his 47% comment, they aren't going to vote conservative when they are an the receiving end of the deal. Rush was right when he said "you can't beat Santa Clause". If you think Milton Friedman was a lying propagandist your farther gone than I thought, and for the record we never tried it his way either. Your solution is tariffs and unions, I have no problem with unions so long as they do their job and stick to it. Tariffs don't work, they benefit a very few and hurt many many more. Until we look in the mirror and admit we have a problem we are doomed to repeat it.
     
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  15. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    #1 I'm not a Dem.
    #2 You answered my question assuming I am because I want tariffs and borders.
    We have a sickness which needs quarantine before we collapse the world economy.

    Tariffs is an economic border which says our people set our standards. Not the market. Not the world. Not the investors. Not multinational corporations who are not citizens nor are they obliged to any town, county, city, state or nation. Nor should they make our economic or political rules. Nor should they own OUR politicians. Profits are not people. That's all they exist for. We should make the rules they play by.


    Your path seems to lead to third world standards not socialist nor commie.
    Let all the good paying jobs leave and ship back here and then follow the Friedman era mentality of....service oriented society ...Burger flippers and shelfstockers and shoeshines boys.

    Next thing they say is its the masses fault that they didn't get educated....but now they did but still no jobs to pay back their loans.
    I lean towards closing the colleges and let corporations and unions train on the job...the older cheaper way.
    But manufacturing is gone.
    Now what.
    We're always gonna have large numbers of uneducated. That's reality....so if you don't force companies to stay with tariffs...you will only build the government with welfare programs or let them starve homeless and die and fight in the streets your third world way.
    Tariffs is the only thing which forces them to build here...and that will take them off the streets to work for pay.
    I don't want welfare for them. I want work which pays.

    Now could you answer that question I posted above.
    Your way is to keep giving them more. SC builds brand new buildings for Boeing and they act like they can't make it, these companies. If you keep giving. They'll keep taking.....and demanding more so they stay,
     
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  16. jimmy g

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    Slave, we already have over 12,000 tariffs. Raising them to protectionist levels will create a Depression and a Trade War, which forces another GREAT Depression. You're repeating Hoover-FDR protectionism. It fails every time.

    End taxing income. End Bureaus. Go Fair Tax. Or the Cruz plan. Incentivize, not punish....
     
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  17. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    Why is it all incentive and not punish for those who already live large jimmy........yet when it comes to the majority you give them little to no incentive.

    You can't answer the question either jimmy.
    I don't hear the nonsense on tariffs will cause depression.
    It makes no sense.

    If our people make the most money in the world and all went back to work....that would NOT cause depression....That would be many consumers spending.
    You guys always say people with lots of money spend it and create jobs and make economy move.
    On a world level that would be us.
     
  18. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    Why do you guys support neocon criminal warmongers who want to build an Empire by physical force or outright covert deception and lies and violent uprisings thru instigation, yet trade war makes you bite your fingernails like scared women?

    Brainwashed is my answer.
    Because the peoples behind the physical wars don't want trade wars because that's part of their big sham. Part of their "conrol-thr- poor" empire building worldwide.

    It would most probably be the multinational corporations behind a trade war..not necessarily the nations.
    I see it as they already are at war with us by leaving and shipping back.
    It's economic war on our people and on our nation.
    They cause the trade deficit leading to national debt which leads to bad stuff for our people...pain and suffering and hardship.
    I'd say if it's labeled trade war....then we have war criminals investing in, and leading multinational corporations against our people. Use the patriot act and jail them indefinitely with no trial and go by war rules.
     
  19. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    A multinational corporation is an entity which has no home. Dedicated to noone.
    Why should they be able to influence any of our politicians or policy?
    Seems like treason to me.
    War crimes.
    Like foreign governments within our government.
    There is no such thing as an American corporation.
    All corporations can be multinational.
    What does the Constitution say about it jimmy?
    Free speech for noncitizens to rule our government?
     
  20. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    Years ago Progressive Southern Dems wanted slaves from Africa to labor for them.
    They wanted no government rules.
    Today you guys follow them for the UN and free trade were policy of Southern Dem Cordell Hull of Tennessee.
    FDR Secretary of State.

    Lincoln wanted protectionists tariffs for manufacturing. And no slaves.

    You guys are Dems not Republican.
     

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