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FedEx Freight | The Pro-Union Thread (Anti-Union People Stay Out)

SwampRatt said:
Yeah, it really LOOKS like it sucks (Both Teamcare & UPS plan). I'm glad we don't have low deductibles and minimal co-pays. I just don't think I could deal with that. I would be personally offended, if I were offered such a plan. I like my $2250 individual/$4500 family deductible, 70/30 plan.
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Just had a 102,000 hospital bill teamcare covered 100%. Not sure if thats a good deal though because I have to pay a whole bunch for, oh wait I forgot I dont pay any insurance remiums. Guess that is a pretty good deal.
 
Hoot Owl said:
We have taken yet ANOTHER pay cut through our benefits, anyone noticed how the copays of a lot of prescriptions have gone up from last month and the years before? Once again, a company making record profit has to take away from those who made it possible, go figure.
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I use the mail order prescription through teamcare for two types of blood pressure meds. My copay for 3 months of meds are $0.44 for one and $1.38 for the other.
 
Everytime I see a certain specialist the receptionist seems to like throwing salt in the wound by saying "You would think FedEx would give you guys better insurance.".

FedEx paid out a little less than what I pay in premiums last year but I'm stuck with an additional $6500 on payment plans. I have the premier plan too. I've been looking into third party insurance. I think that's their ultimate goal.

"We have great insurance!" cry the FedX Strong zombies. It is great...until you actually need it.

Another fine example is the dental insurance. I go in for a routine six month cleaning only to find out I have a tooth infection after explaining minor discomfort. In one breath the dentist says "If you wouldn't have come in here today, it may have spread to your blood stream and killed you. At the very least you would've have lost two teeth and needed a bridge". Then he says "I need to inject an antibiotic into the gums behind two affected teeth. If I don't, you'll surely lose these teeth". He comes back a minute later with the syringe and explains "I just checked and your insurance does not cover this, you'll need to make payment before you leave here today for $150". I'm thinking to myself, thanks Uncle Fred...heaven forbid you cover something that could've surely save my teeth and possibly my life after I paid premiums for years.
More insult to injury...They send me on my way with a prescription to take an antibiotic regimen for a week. I go to pick up the meds and the lady says "I'm not running this through your insurance". When I asked her why, she says "Well it'll be $10 through the prescription plan but $7 on it's own"....wtf?!?!
 
ChooChoo said:
Everytime I see a certain specialist the receptionist seems to like throwing salt in the wound by saying "You would think FedEx would give you guys better insurance.".

FedEx paid out a little less than what I pay in premiums last year but I'm stuck with an additional $6500 on payment plans. I have the premier plan too. I've been looking into third party insurance. I think that's their ultimate goal.

"We have great insurance!" cry the FedX Strong zombies. It is great...until you actually need it.

Another fine example is the dental insurance. I go in for a routine six month cleaning only to find out I have a tooth infection after explaining minor discomfort. In one breath the dentist says "If you wouldn't have come in here today, it may have spread to your blood stream and killed you. At the very least you would've have lost two teeth and needed a bridge". Then he says "I need to inject an antibiotic into the gums behind two affected teeth. If I don't, you'll surely lose these teeth". He comes back a minute later with the syringe and explains "I just checked and your insurance does not cover this, you'll need to make payment before you leave here today for $150". I'm thinking to myself, thanks Uncle Fred...heaven forbid you cover something that could've surely save my teeth and possibly my life after I paid premiums for years.
More insult to injury...They send me on my way with a prescription to take an antibiotic regimen for a week. I go to pick up the meds and the lady says "I'm not running this through your insurance". When I asked her why, she says "Well it'll be $10 through the prescription plan but $7 on it's own"....wtf?!?!
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That's really sad fedex is one of the biggest anti-worker company in america, they can definitely afford more, unfortunately just part of a bigger trend shifting benefits to their employees. First thing to go was pensions then health care, probably wont be long after that they will try to shift you guys to their subcontractor model (scam)
 
highheadblues said:
Just had a 102,000 hospital bill teamcare covered 100%. Not sure if thats a good deal though because I have to pay a whole bunch for, oh wait I forgot I dont pay any insurance remiums. Guess that is a pretty good deal.
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Yea I just had a major back surgery, 9 days in the hospital and no bill!! I did get a statement, which at the bottom said zero balance!!! Sweet!! I'm like you Snark Monkey, my blood pressure med's are less than 4.00 bucks every threes months! Really can't complain much about that!! Those mean ole teamsters they just treat us so bad don't they!
 
What I don't understand about Fedex employees is the fact their insurance sucks, pension (yeah right) is a cash balance plan (second rate retirement) with a 401K. To top it off most of these guys think that is great and why should I pay union dues when I got this. What an utter shame to think that is good. In fact that would be a slap in the face. But the good ol boys must not think they're worth nothing more than some garbage benefit plan disguised as good.
 
UPSer said:
What I don't understand about Fedex employees is the fact their insurance sucks, pension (yeah right) is a cash balance plan (second rate retirement) with a 401K. To top it off most of these guys think that is great and why should I pay union dues when I got this. What an utter shame to think that is good. In fact that would be a slap in the face. But the good ol boys must not think they're worth nothing more than some garbage benefit plan disguised as good.
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All the company has to do is say tthere is a chance of a strike and most of their drivers will soil themselves because if they miss 1 check they'll go bankrupt. They know their not getting a good deal, but cant risk missing a check because of a strike, so they try to convince themselves they have it as good as anybody else. The company knows this and use it to their advantage.
 
UPSer said:
What I don't understand about Fedex employees is the fact their insurance sucks, pension (yeah right) is a cash balance plan (second rate retirement) with a 401K. To top it off most of these guys think that is great and why should I pay union dues when I got this. What an utter shame to think that is good. In fact that would be a slap in the face. But the good ol boys must not think they're worth nothing more than some garbage benefit plan disguised as good.
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Brother UPS this is what gets me on the union dues part the anti union people are so misinformed of. FedEx will pay all this big money to hire these union busters to keep the work force intimidated, misinformed and keep the workers from having respect on the job they work. "Union dues gives you the rights and respect from management to have a voice. When a violation has occurred from the company the contract that has been mutually agreed upon by both union and company has to be and will be followed."

Without it you might as well be a second tier citizen without a voice. I know my job and do it well everyday, been doing this thing too long to be talked down to or treated like they're trying to insult my intelligence. Union contract all the way :1036316054:
 
Its funny how drivers who worked for a union company and now work at FedEx are putting down the union. So sad that those drivers are drawing a union check and talking chit about the union. Yet they are working for FedEx bad mouthing the Teamsters, but they are not complaining when they cash that union check they receive every month. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you:thumbsdown::wtflol:
 
screwy louiey said:
Its funny how drivers who worked for a union company and now work at FedEx are putting down the union. So sad that those drivers are drawing a union check and talking chit about the union. Yet they are working for FedEx bad mouthing the Teamsters, but they are not complaining when they cash that union check they receive every month. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you:thumbsdown::wtflol:
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If that's the case and they are retired from central states those former Me-Sters know they cannot be driving for any carrier or face reimbursement to the pension fund. Terrible when those very people who received top shelf pension and healthcare would talk so terribly about our union. I'm betting these guys were a cancer at the dispatch window and the dock. I would love to have a face to face with some of those clowns.
 
UPSer said:
If that's the case and they are retired from central states those former Me-Sters know they cannot be driving for any carrier or face reimbursement to the pension fund. Terrible when those very people who received top shelf pension and healthcare would talk so terribly about our union. I'm betting these guys were a cancer at the dispatch window and the dock. I would love to have a face to face with some of those clowns.
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I wonder if Joe brocks pension is or cvould be striped from him?
 
I do know of a few guyz that were union and work at FedEx that got caught up in the merger of Yellow and Roadway. They still keep in contact and we meet when we have our drivers breakfast during the year with the retirees. They tell me the issues they have there and would love to see a contract in place there. Told me, don't take it for grant it for what we have cause it is a different world from where they came from.

Even said the misconception of a layoff is the non union think a layoff is you don't work at all thing the spring. Told me he explained to them that if laid off just means you don't have a start time and are subject to be called to work whenever and whatever. You still work if you want to, just have to be available and take that work call whenever that time is.

I remember when I was laid off and although wasn't guaranteed 40 hrs I made my 40 hrs breaking layoff turning my 8's. When on a layoff status the company can work you again on the dock after being off 8 hrs back to the dock. When I did hit the street on those days I made my O/T working the dock when I got in. Gotta know how to play the freight game and know your contract which I hate to say most don't know:sorrow:. The beauty of it was if I could I would work enough to get my 40 before friday and have a three day weekend. Broke layoff and was guaranteed 40 hrs the next week. Play the game and play it right and you'll be alright..
 
Thats very true what your saying. When I worked at YRC and you got laid off you just made yourself available for everything like dock, yard, city, or line haul. I'll say this I was never laid off at YRC when I was there. It was good to know that you could still get your hours when its slowed.
 
Interesting chronology of events from Stockton. Thought I'd share a couple excerpts of what what I found:
Day 2 of week 3

MORE stinking ride alongs with the P&D folks and yes now even fence sitters are starting to get real agitated with all these. Some drivers have now gotten 3 ride alongs. They say this is standard practice but a lot of us have been here for years and never had our CSM ride with us let alone visiting CSM's and managers.

4 HR representatives where brought in to do One on Ones with drivers and go over their retirement using the fedex retirement calculator on their website. Mind you these are not financial advisers and the formula used to reach these retirement estimates are still unknown. The company offers no guarantees those figures will be accurate.

One co-worker put it best "this is a retirement fortune teller" only as good as the fool that would believe it.
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week 4 day 4

more of the same. did not get a copy of the handout today but the ride alongs today are being split amongst the line haul and p&d drivers

the whole center is talking about the driver thats duties where changed after speaking up in the meetings.

He is a good kid and spoke his mine candidly without fear and of course they did not appreciate that so they used the old "management discretion" excuse to mess with him.

He had not been to active with the union or the hall but after this he was advised to go down there and let the organizer know what happened.

Some have been saying local and regional management are the best union recruiters and after this incident that notion could not have been more true
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week5 day 1

Ride alongs continue...

well today we had Rob L. the Human Resources Manager out of the Texas area to give us the Overnite fear presentation. Yes that is the one that uses clips from the HBO documentary American Standoff.

Of course he only showed the bad but failed to tell us why Overnite did not do anything to stop it. He only wanted to talk about how the teamsters didn't do nothing to stop the violence. He also was not forth coming with the fact that today those men that lived through all that still voted in the teamsters and are now known as Ups Freight. Never mentioned anything about how management was convicted of falsifying police reports, setting fires and other lawful acts in attempts to blame them on the teamsters. We know the truth though

Everyone got word by the 2nd meeting and when he asked if anyone had any questions all he got was a room full of stares. He anticipated we would act like a bunch of stupid monkeys and fling poo but we decided to just gesture our displeasure with disgruntled looks and deafening silence.

He is after all just some Human Resources guy and engaging him in a heated debate about overnite and the facts is not prudent to the issues we all signed cards for.

Just another Fedex distraction.
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day 5 of week 5

had the Terminal Manager from philly M. Gee still lingering around the breakroom trying to chat with guys.

I Stood next to him for a while as he was having a friendly conversation about the weather with a driver and i could not help but notice how nervous and uncomfortable he became. He started sweating and became red in the face. Its obvious he knows his speech was less then truthful and is unsettled by the thought that at any time someone will call him on it. I know the Philly guys wouldn't have passed up any opportunity to rail on him, Good thing for him this is California.

the daily anti-union hand out was so hilarious that i had to actually have it scanned instead of taking a pic

enjoy

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day1 week 6

Don B. gave his presentation and we all gave him the silent treatment IN EVERY MEETING! no questions where raised.

the only one that asked questions was our Terminal manager after apologizing to brown on our behalf for being a shy haha

day 2 week 6

had the guy from weekend at bernies Mike D. come in and give us all small round table discussions

we sat down and where encircled by about 20 different managers, HR reps, corporate pressed shirts, safety and lost prevention folks. Those people did not sit, they stood around us as we sat down.

Ducker gave us all a verbal 20 min. autobiography of his life and asked us if we had any questions. Nobody again spoke up or raised any issues. The setting was intense and we know it was done on purpose to make sure we did not disrespect their leader.

All that meeting has done is brought our co-workers down off the fence and shown them who the real thugs, and cronies are. They realize that we (their fellow co-workers) are always going to shake their hand and appreciate them and we should be standing together.

The message is clear fedex and their staff are all phony!!! they only care about one thing and that's a "No vote".

They have brought in management that we love and admire to sway us but we can read right through it. We know they have been told to be here and recite the corporate lines and bs.

to those managers (they know who they are) we hold no grudges. we know that those good managers are with us deep down inside.
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day 3 week 6

today we came in to a HUGE banana cake and a celebratory atmosphere. The occasion: They official presentation of checks and awards for the drivers that are now recieving their safety trucks for driving 25 years without a accident. They had revisited incidents that had previously disqualified them from getting the award and corporate had over turned those decisions.

But the good vibes all came to an end before the day ended. We all showed our displeasure at the fake gesture of appreciation management was trying to convey.

Some made it clear we know why this has been done and it was a sorry attempt to win over guys and it got ugly between the VP and other regional managers is all i can say.

Its now clear to us that management is going to run a dirty campaign. The desperation is clear defeat is inevitable and they do not want us to get to our day.

Rest assured that we are still here and still united and loving every minute of watching the real cronies and thugs expose themselves and crumble.

NOTE the ride alongs have continued every day of this week
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Thought this was especially interesting:


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Where does it say increased driver pay, health benefits, and a real pension plan. Oh yeah no where to be found. So basically some of these guys are willing to sacrifice decent pay and benefits for free coffee, toilets, chains (those should be replaced yearly Fred). How nice a refrigerator and a microwave that no ones gonna clean. Truly pathetic attempts. Whats sad is the good ol boys will think this is good. Im shaking my head and laughing at the same time. And they wonder why their pay is in the gutter. Sickening!!!!
 
Seeing as we can't post in the anti thread I thought I would address this here.

Redracer3136 said:
What can Brown and the teamsters do for you?
How bout allow the union, teamsters local 439 in Stockton Ca, to illegally deduct union dues from a seasonal employee who didn't qualify for such deductions...causing the employee to be presented with a payroll check for $0!!!!
That's right, UPS and local 439 illegally deducted dues, which is a violation of Federal Labor Laws....to which the teamsters in Stockton Ca refused to give back to the employee!

And who says there's no corruption in "today's" teamsters???

Another example of how the union only cares about the money and NOT about the employees!!!

http://www.nrtw.org/en/press/2015/02/ups-seasonal-worker-receives-0-paycheck-02042015
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Sounds like a UPS manager mislead the worker not the Teamsters. I doubt UPS has the Teamsters do their payroll so again it looks like UPS is at fault and not the Teamsters. It also does not state what his check would have been so I will speculate by working backwards. Seasonal pay is $10 per hour for UPS. Dues are in the range of 2X hourly wage for a month. So we arrive at a grand total of $20 in dues so he must have worked about 2 hours during his first week to arrive at $0. The article did not state what his next paycheck was so this part is misleading. Also do not see this statement by you in the article "to which the teamsters in Stockton Ca refused to give back to the employee!" Not agreeing that it was right, just making a few observations.
 
I read the article as well and I work at Parcel. Heres my take. Seasonal don't have to pay union dues or initiation fees because they are exactly as their title states :seasonal: and they get tossed out weather they're a driver or package handler when the season ends by contract. When he was hired HR made the mistake of misclassifying him as part time as opposed to seasonal. That in turn caused the payroll department to make the deduction for those dues in december which moneys were remitted to the union probably the next month (January). Whats bothersome is payroll should have checked for a signed dues authorization form for which they obviously did not.

In that pay period he received a $0.00 check. He should have went to his manager or payroll department where UPS would cut him a paper check less taxes for his two hours worked on the spot. My guess is those two hours worked for the week were for his orientation he attended but its paid for time nonetheless.

If he called the union demanding his $20.00 they may not even have a record of him at all. So here is someone calling their office demanding $20.00 when they may not have even been remitted by UPS in the first place. So why would they pay money out to someone who's not in there system. This was payroll screwing that up.
 
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