The True Cost Of Israel

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  1. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-true-cost-of-israel/

    In truth, American aid to Israel is something like a pot of gold that keeps on giving. Both sides in the discussion would probably agree that the domestic Israel Lobby has been instrumental in sustaining the high level of aid, though they would undoubtedly disagree over whether that is a good or bad thing. The operation of “The Lobby,” generally regarded as the most powerful voice on foreign policy in Washington, led Professors Stephen Walt and John Mearsheimer to
    ask, “Why has the U.S. been willing to set aside its own security … in order to advance the interests of another state? [No] explanation can account for the remarkable level of material and diplomatic support that the U.S. provides.” They observed that “Other special interest groups have managed to skew foreign policy, but no lobby has managed to divert it as far from what the national interest would suggest, while simultaneously convincing Americans that U.S. interests and those of the other country—in this case, Israel—are essentially identical.”

    Since the foundation of the state of Israel in 1948, it has been “the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II,” according to the Congressional Research Service. The United States has provided Israel with $233.7 billion in adjusted for inflation aid between 1948 through the end of 2012, reports Haaretz. Current discussions center on the Obama administration’s memo of understanding with Israel that promised it $38 billion in military assistance over the next 10 years, a considerable sum but nevertheless a total that is far less than what is actually received annually from the United States Treasury and from other American sources.

    Senator Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), speaking in the most recent legislative discussion over Israeli aid, stated that the $38 billion should be regarded as a floor, and that Congress should approve additional funds for Israeli defense as needed. It has, in fact, done so. At its most recent meeting, AIPAC announced the latest windfall from America, applauding “the U.S. House of Representatives for significantly bolstering its support of U.S.-Israel missile defense cooperation in the FY 2017 defense appropriations bill. The House appropriated $600.7 million for U.S.-Israel missile defense programs.” And there is a long history of such special funding for Israeli-connected projects. The Iron Dome missile-defense system was largely funded by the United States, to the tune of more than $1 billion. In the 1980s, the Israeli Lavi jet-fighter development program was funded by Washington, costing $2 billion to the U.S. taxpayer before it was terminated over technical and other problems, part of $5.45 billion in Pentagon funding of various Israeli weapons projects through 2002.

    The admittedly unreliable former Congressman James Traficant once claimed that “Israel gets $15 billion per year from the American taxpayers.” Indeed, how Israel gets money from the United States is actually quite complex and not very transparent to the American public, going well beyond the check for $3.8 billion handed over at the beginning of the fiscal year on October 1. Even that check, uniquely given to aid recipient Israel as one lump sum on the first day of the year, is manipulated to produce extra revenue. It is normally immediately redeposited with the U.S. Treasury, which then, because it operates on a deficit, borrows the money to pay interest on it as the Israelis draw it down. That interest payment costs the American taxpayer an estimated $100 million more per year. Israel has also been adept at using “loan guarantees,” an issue that may have contributed to the downfall of President George H.W. Bush. The reality is that the loans, totaling $42 billion, are never repaid by Israel, meaning that the United States Treasury picks up the tab on principle and interest, a form of additional assistance. The Bush-era loan amounted to $10 billion.

    http://www.usdebtclock.org/



    We have nothing better to spend our hard earned money on than another nation who favors one religion/race over all others?????
    And we think it's just fine and dandy that our people lose stuff and our government attacks our own for money issues...whils still serving their own bank accounts serving another nation????
     
  2. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    Most of the forign aid money we "give" to other nations Isreal included gets spent back here in the USA.

    If you really think about it it's, Welfare for our corporations who sell their products to the Nations spending the Aid money.
     
  3. Bubba74

    Bubba74 Well-Known Member

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    The Great One had a guest on who wrote about Eisenhowers relationship with Israel

    In the beginning Ike thought if he kind of pushed Israel back and warmed to the Islamic nations, that would help stabilize the region, didn't work
    So he started supporting Israel more
    A strong Israel with an active USA ally makes for a stable region. No one in the Middle East wants to fight a determined USA ir a USA backed Israel, it has not worked out for them yet (after several attempts)
     
  4. SAC75

    SAC75 Well-Known Member

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    Does that include Iran? Lol. I know you are going to say Obama gave them back their own money but the question is why? To fund more terrorism I guess?
     
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  5. Rastus

    Rastus ..“We caught em”.. AD-FREE USER

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    Trump should MOAB their ass!
     
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  6. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    The "great one" probably got his job inder Reagan from tbe groups in the article.....he probably wouldnt be anybody without them. Hes annoying........at $20 trillion in debt we should worry totally about stabilizing that debt.....and spending on Israel is a part of it which has been way out of line. The region has been terribly unstable since it changed from Israel to Palestine...Levins answer/excuse is right out of the shyster playbook of their lobby....They should get some big boy pants and pay their own way . We shouldnt help anybody till the debt reads zero.
     
  7. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    As they brag about how much they make off our tax dollars here is a group who had grandfathers, fathers, themselves, brothers, sons, and grandsons who sacrificed in the military for those tax dollars.....and provided their fair share of them tax dollars......yet Israel has a fixed part of our budget dedicated just for Israel....I wouldn't doubt we pay for Israeli pensions .....Dual citizens should not be allowed in high government jobs. I think it's treasonous activity.....seeing the spending from the story....I think they're worse than Russia.

    http://www.truckingboards.com/bb/forums/central-states-pension-fund-discussion.212/
     
  8. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    For 10 possibly 20 years of more of not having to go to war with them over Nukes.

    Like we are worrying about North Korea, we made a deal with Iran to avoid that.
    Israel wanted to invade Iran with our help.
     
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  9. Bubba74

    Bubba74 Well-Known Member

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    that was a "great" deal, funding terrorism for a generation

    would rather help support Israel than most of the other countries we give foreign aid too
    nations that flood us with illegal immigrants
    or nations that sponsor terrorism
     
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  10. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    When a nation is $20 trillion in debt it would seem to most rational people that we have no money to help any nation....not even our own.
     
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  11. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    It always made me uneasy, the way some Christians think.....this sheds some light...maybe alt right...maybe real..maybe not...but it does make sense to me.
    http://www.serendipity.li/zionism/carlson01.htm
    The Source of the Problem in the Mid East — Part II
    Why Judeo-Christians Support War
    by C. E. Carlson
     
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  12. SAC75

    SAC75 Well-Known Member

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    Really? When did Israel say that? Or did they speak directly to you?
     
  13. SAC75

    SAC75 Well-Known Member

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    Easy way to put us back to zero debt is to not pay it back. We never will anyway. Who's going to make us?
     
  14. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    The same people who made Hitler do what he did. the same people who fight to change Trump into what they want instead of what the voters wanted.....A very intertwined group of powerful people involved in education, media, banking and finance, the military, the deep state.the market.even religion...


    A hypothetical, I think it's called......imagine that these globalists who fought trump's ideas on foreign intervention and allowing Russia to handle Syria...actually gassed the Syrians and blamed Assad...result: Trump flipflops.
    Imagine they don't like his idea's on not allowing them to use China and mexico against American workers....to keep wages and political power down so their profits improve...imagine they somehow are connected to North korea..or can have him push Trump....and then Trump goes to China to help get Korea in line........does that put Trump in check on his China tariff ideas? The same week Trump comes out and says China is not manipulating their currency.

    Mexico, central America, Greece, Italy, Spain, Ireland....all have had nasty austerity measures imposed on them. How hard would it be for them to turn on us if austerity was imposed on us?

    We saw how the globablists in Europe did not embrace Trump wholeheartedly when elected..with his nationalist, instead of globablist ideals....Russia and china are gaining political allies......would it really be that unforeseeable that the world would ever turn on us?
    The key would be Israel...and their banker chokehold on us and the world and their dual citizens involved in politics in many nations......they are the key to doing what was done to hitler for coining his own money....kennedy and Andrew Jackson and Lincoln also wanted to break free of the Zionist Central World banks.
    I don't believe for a second that we are too big to be turned on. They are not to be trusted.

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  15. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    http://heresyintheheartland.blogspot.com/2014/01/c-i-scofield-scoundrel-shyster-and.html
    http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/hoax/scofield.htm
     
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  16. SAC75

    SAC75 Well-Known Member

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    Know one is going to force us to do anything. We have enough nukes to blow all life off the planet. I'll never know the difference.
     
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  18. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    The politicians who control them buttons work for who?
     
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  19. Rastus

    Rastus ..“We caught em”.. AD-FREE USER

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    Better sooner than later.
     
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    SAC75 Well-Known Member

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    Us
     

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